RMThompson
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Ok, before I say anything let me preface this by saying two things:
1. I have not worked for Suicide Girls, signed a contract with Suicide Girls, nor am I affiliated with them in ANY way.
2. YES I've read the other threads both on this forum and on others.
Now, with that out of the way, I'd like to have a rational discussion about SG, what they are, what they aren't and why or why not someone should work with them.
From what I understand people on this forum, and others, always offer advice not to work with suicide girls based on their contract. Their contract specifically mentions a non-competetition clause for two years once you work with them against any "SG COMPETITORS"... and yes, they loosely define an "SG COMPETITOR" as, and here I quote;
So, that being said once you work for SG you cannot work for another pay site that features nude woman that are of the "tattooed/pierced" persuasian.
The other big issue people seem to point out is when they sued a photographer for taking pictures of his wife. It seems that people paint the picture that they were takings pictures at home, posted them on their blog and was sued, but the truth of the matter was it was a Suicide Girl who wanted to break out on her OWN and create her OWN paysite and her husband was her photographer. They sued them for breaking the above non-compete clause.
The question I have here is... What's the issue?
I mean, I can see how it COULD be an issue for a lot of models and photogs, if they intend on working in this enviroment with other websites, or in the case mentioned above, intend on creating their own pay site... but for MANY photogs and models, myself included, Suicide Girls would be the only "pay site" they would be working for.
Moreover, Suicide Girls is a HUGE website. Their is a thriving community there, and I could see how being a part of it may be beneficial to my career's health. Once you work for them a few times, and if they like you, you can become a staff photographer, and make a considerable amount of money each photoshoot accepted, and there are 60 photoshoots accepted a month... plenty of room for openings. On top of that they also help find you models to work with, as there are tons of SG Hopefuls, and that could help finding new models for the site.
So I feel like I am missing something. I just re-read this and I sound very DEFENSIVE of them, and I am not trying to be. I am TRYING to be in the middle, listening to both sides of the story. Last time this was discussed there was plenty of "don't do it" posts, but very little discussion outside of the specific case I mentioned.
If you've had personal experience with them, LET ME KNOW. If you don't want to post it here, PM me and we can discuss it offlist... just help me make the right decision!
Thanks!
1. I have not worked for Suicide Girls, signed a contract with Suicide Girls, nor am I affiliated with them in ANY way.
2. YES I've read the other threads both on this forum and on others.
Now, with that out of the way, I'd like to have a rational discussion about SG, what they are, what they aren't and why or why not someone should work with them.
From what I understand people on this forum, and others, always offer advice not to work with suicide girls based on their contract. Their contract specifically mentions a non-competetition clause for two years once you work with them against any "SG COMPETITORS"... and yes, they loosely define an "SG COMPETITOR" as, and here I quote;
"Other websites that are pay sites featuring nude modeling and tattooed/ pierced girls"
So, that being said once you work for SG you cannot work for another pay site that features nude woman that are of the "tattooed/pierced" persuasian.
The other big issue people seem to point out is when they sued a photographer for taking pictures of his wife. It seems that people paint the picture that they were takings pictures at home, posted them on their blog and was sued, but the truth of the matter was it was a Suicide Girl who wanted to break out on her OWN and create her OWN paysite and her husband was her photographer. They sued them for breaking the above non-compete clause.
The question I have here is... What's the issue?
I mean, I can see how it COULD be an issue for a lot of models and photogs, if they intend on working in this enviroment with other websites, or in the case mentioned above, intend on creating their own pay site... but for MANY photogs and models, myself included, Suicide Girls would be the only "pay site" they would be working for.
Moreover, Suicide Girls is a HUGE website. Their is a thriving community there, and I could see how being a part of it may be beneficial to my career's health. Once you work for them a few times, and if they like you, you can become a staff photographer, and make a considerable amount of money each photoshoot accepted, and there are 60 photoshoots accepted a month... plenty of room for openings. On top of that they also help find you models to work with, as there are tons of SG Hopefuls, and that could help finding new models for the site.
So I feel like I am missing something. I just re-read this and I sound very DEFENSIVE of them, and I am not trying to be. I am TRYING to be in the middle, listening to both sides of the story. Last time this was discussed there was plenty of "don't do it" posts, but very little discussion outside of the specific case I mentioned.
If you've had personal experience with them, LET ME KNOW. If you don't want to post it here, PM me and we can discuss it offlist... just help me make the right decision!
Thanks!