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  1. jlykins

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    Got into the new studio last week, and after a few days of painting and stuff this was the first shoot I did. These are a couple of "swimsuit models" that work for a small production company in Cincinnati. CC welcome. Almost forgot, the setup is all whitelightning strobes. a 1200 at about 45degrees camera right, a 1200 just to the camera left, and two 1200's on the background. First time using the new strobes, and man those things are powerful.

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    Man..... the lighting on these is too flat. No punch.

    Sorry. I can't add anything more.

    -Pete
     
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    Not bad...but I agree with Pete, they could use more punch.

    They need more contrast, which could probably be done pretty easily with levels & curves. As for the lighting, a greater ratio between your key & fill lights might help.
     
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    Looks like you could also do with a flag for your lights. You appear to be getting a little washout from them.
     
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    good shots ! :) nice angles
     
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    I wondered if it wasn't coming off the background.

    -Pete
     
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    Could have been. Main light was f8 key was f5.6 and both background lights were f11. Took a meter reading from about 4 feet in front of the background and got f11 at 1/250th. That's what I was shooting at. Next time I'm going to drop the key to f4 or maybe slightly higher. We'll see. I agree that the lighting is a bit flat. Luckily the customer was happy. That's all that really matters to me...
     
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    That sounds about right to me, presuming you mean the fill was at f5.6.

    In fact, I would expect you had the background 2 stops over the main.

    Hmmm......

    Do you keep your main and your fill the same distance from the subject?

    -Pete
     
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    Yeah same distance. I think it may have been the mismatched heads. I realized a few minutes ago that I was using a White lightning 600 as the main, and the 1200 as the fill. Ooops...
     
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    Wait, wait, wait, that shouldn't matter though. The light meter read what the output was no matter what, hmmm. I'll have to look at the setup later. Maybe pop each one again just to verify the output...
     
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    Have you ever tried having both lights with the same output, but position the fill further back... behind the camera?

    This is an old "film" approach. The thinking was "expose for the shadows, print for the highlights." This doesn't apply to digital. These days, I expose for the highlights and adjust the shadows to get the ratio I want.

    But anyway.... I still work with the main light in close and the fill light behind me just to free up the space between the subject and myself (I like to move in a lot to adjust hair/clothing). And, the light will act differently with main in close... softer, wrap-around quality, softer edge shadow. You get larger catch lights too.

    I keep the modeling light on the fill turned off so I can better see the modeling from the main.
     
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    I position the main/key light as close to the subject as possible...to make it as soft as possible (when I want soft light).
    My fill light however, is farther back...sometimes a lot farther back if I've got the room. One reason for this, is because it minimizes the catchlight from the fill.

    Also, the fill light need not be opposite the key light. The fill should be (can be) thought of as a flat wash of light that brings up the levels of everything the camera sees. It does not (or should not) cast it's own shadows for the camera to see...so it could be right above the camera or wherever works for you.
     

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