I finally figured out Neat Image.. it's cool... so far I just used the auto settings using NI with PS CS.. here are the comparisons using a photo I posted yesterday... 1 the original shot from the cam, just reduced to 800 wide. 2 my rendition from yesterday, adjusted, cropped and such. 3 and my rendition edited with Neat Image.. Such a cool program, I hope to learn more when I have time to study the tutorials online. Thanks for looking and Thanks Matt! now i just need to go through the 344 pics I posted on my new website yesterday........ ooooooooooonooooooooooooooooo!!