The Dan Winters Type look with digital

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  1. Shelly1204

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    Most of Dan Winters' on-line portfolio portraits are shot on large-format Kodak VC 160 film. I cannot say that I have ever seen his photos until today, but I do like kind of lower-light, very simple portraiture shot with one main light and a large 4x6 foot reflector for fill,and a sort of old-school hair light/separation light done with a deep parabolic reflector with a grid, a diffuser, and a barn door set to control the separation light.

    This is with very low levels of flash power; typically as little as 200 watt-seconds from the main light, 50 watt-seconds on the hairlight, and 50 watt-seconds on the background light. I shoot in RAW with the EOS 5D, and convert to monochrome with a Gradient Mask. I strive for "realism", which means very little makeup on women, pores that show, and no heavy processing, but just a natural,subtle look, lighted entirely in-camera and all done on a single layer.

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    I just wanted to point out something that I thought was interesting.

    The first photo I saw on DW's website this portrait of Obama:

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    Funny how it disobeys all the "rules" on portraiture, particularly the one about the use of wide angles. He clearly used anything but a telephoto for this shot, yet, it really works.
     
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    Really? I think that photo is absolutely awful. The second it loaded on his page, I was like, whoaaa, worst shot I've ever seen of President Obama. THe first thing I noticed was the barely attached ear on the side of his head. The a terrible angle,and it makes his ear look huge. And the wide angle distortion makes his nose look giant as well. It looks like he is using a 24/1.4 on a FF body or something. His lips are sharper than his eyes, and the skin tone is washed out an pale. Not a fan of the beauty dish glow on his forehead either. But whatever, he gets tons of work, so people must like it.
     
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    You do know that having pores showing with no makeup is something women hate, right?
     
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    LOL You're funny.

    I think that photo is amazing!
     
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    Tell me why.
     
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    Perhaps it's because everything about the President is portrayed far too seriously. Even when he's smiling for a press photo, it's a serious and disingenuous smile. I'm not saying he's inherently dishonest; but no one is that happy all the time.

    That picture shows a seemingly natural, unforced expression of satisfaction. The exaggeration created by the wide angle paints him in a lighter mood.
     
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    Why you're funny? Or why I think the photo's amazing?
     
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    Why you like it.
     
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    I pretty much agree with all of that. And it's not the wie angle distortion that bother me, as much as it is the angle. I like the light mood that the wide angle produces, but the floating camera left ear, and the fact that he has an extra inch of face in his camera left side due to wide angle interpretation, kills it for me. His face just looks all sorts of tweaked, and not just in the wide angle way. His eyes aren't centered under his forehead, his lips aren't centered under his nose, his head isn't centered over his neck, one ear is half buried in his cheek, and the other one is trying to escape his head entirely. If the pose was slightly more straight on so his facial symmetry didn't get so jacked up, I would like it a lot more.
     
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    When I saw the Obama shot I was reminded of those caricature drawings that you get done at an amusement park such as: www.fanpop.com/.../title/barack-obama-caricature

    Pretty amusing drawings. Not sure what the intent of this particular photo was, but if it was intended to be unflattering and a bit caricature like then it achieved it's intended result.
     

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