The end of the DSLR (for the 1000th time)

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  1. Solarflare

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    The Mirrorless Revolution is just Starting By Steve Huff
    Well, not with me. I'm not interested in the Sony A7* stuff anymore. I already have a great full frame system, I dont need another.

    If I go mirrorless, I think I will probably go for Fuji medium format. Assuming the rumors are true and its indeed coming.

    And about the title of the article - well obviously its "only starting".

    - All existing systems leave something to be desired, though it looks like Fuji will soon be quite complete as a system (introducing HSS with their flash units and hopefully more flash features soon), though they still have other issues (autofocus performance, affordable lenses, battery life).

    - Ignoring Leica's high price offers, we only have a single system thats offers full frame (Sony FE). Theres some that offer APS-C but they all have issues: Fuji X lacks affordable lenses, Sony E lacks both in selection as well as quality of lenses, Canon EOS M lacks massively in respect to native lenses, and Samsung NX is gone anyway now though apparently their lens quality was better than Sony.

    - One of the advantages of mirrorless could be better wide angle lenses. However this requires digital sensors that can handle steep angles of light at the borders. Unfortunately so far this wasnt widely archieved (Leica seems to be in the lead about this, which makes their new SL system even more appealing, but unfortunately not the least bit more affordable).

    - Even if there was a mirrorless system that would be complete, central issues of mirrorless seem unresolveable, meaning autofocus performance and the fact that EVF needs a constant current, thus the number of shots one gets out of a mirrorless is a lot less (usually around 300; 600 if there is a battery grip) than out of a DSLR (500 for entry level DSLR, 1000 for advanced DSLR, 2000 for advanced DSLRs with battery grip, 3000+ for top DSLR), and thats not considering the problem of shooters that have to use the viewfinder a lot (especially for wildlife).

    I think a mirrorless could offer compareable or even better AF performance than DSLRs if somebody could make a dualpixel sensor and also use advanced contrast autofocus, unfortunaltey.


     
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    Wait, the DSLR is dead?

    Again?

    This is starting to remind me of a local stereo store that runs a going out of business sale.. every year for the past 10 years straight.
     
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    Just checked my DSLR. It fired right up. Can confirm it's not dead.
     
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    robbins.photo Yup, It's The Zoo Guy Supporting Member

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    Forget it... it's in a death spiral. Might as well whip out the cell phone. All over now but the crying..

    lol
     
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    The CV 15mm Heliar (M mount) works great on Fuji X cameras.
     
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    It depends on the mount diameter. It looks like FUJI X, being an APS-C camera, has no problems with its 44 mm mount, unlike Sony A7, which effectively is using an APS-C (ex-NEX) 46 mm mount for their full frame cameras. That is why Sony is struggling with a proper wide FF E-mount lenses. Sigma CEO Kazuto Yamaki has confirmed that Sony A7 E-mount is too small to produce a high quality FF lense.
     
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    Not dead but circling the drain :)

    I want to see Nikon's full frame CDC.
     
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    yep, my DSLR seems to be alive (not dead)
    www.flickr.com/photos/mmirrorless
     
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    Maybe, if they can ever manage to address issues like evf, power mgmt, auto focus.. you know, when these things can at least match the performance of a dslr.

    Then all they have to do is convince me and everyone else who already has a chunk of change invested in systems we really like to switch and...

    Well not betting the farm on that one. Rotfl

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    No matter what we as photographers want it to be - it's mostly about economics. We complain that some guy buys a D5500 kit at Sam's Club and goes out and shoots weddings but those sales are a big part of what keeps Nikon in business.
    If the masses buy mirrorless then that's where the developments and new features will go.
     
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    I thought the SLR died too

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    personally i like cameras that are fun to shoot. Now if they could work on that instead of making things with a three year expected life expectancy and three hundred page manuals that would be nice. Just something that shoots, is fun to shoot and actually works. something you can drop and it wont break. Maybe even one that you can shoot ten k photos from before needing a recharge or being able to use it with or without a battery with a emergency windup (think camping light wind up). You know, something we can actually USE HAPPILY without carrying a ton of chit around to get a decent photo that is user friendly and actually works. But really in many ways they have gone backwards. More plastic, longer manuals, some of the lenses are bigger and heavier now than they were years ago. Quality standards are ummm.. well seem a little lower.
     

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