that's because as you get older you get to play an hour or two here and there as time allows and your going into a game and playing against kids and teenagers who play for 6-8 hours a day. kinda like wondering why you go out and do a photo shoot once a month and arn't progressing as fast as the guy next door who shoots everyday. forza, really liked that game. i'd love to see xbox and logitech shake hands so they can make some wheels for the xbox. what they have now is crap unless you want to spend more then $500 for a wheel. but either way I like forza way better then gran turismo. I thought the last gt sucked. so much that i play forza with a controller rather then playing gt with a wheel\pedal and racing seat setup.