Thickening the developer?

[rbaek]

Hey Everybody.

I like to experiment a lot in the B&W-darkroom.
At the moment im working with different concentrations of developer. I am thickening them using cornstarch, though it doesn't really seem to do the job as well as I would like it to.

Do any of you, have any experiences with any types of thickening agent for developer??? Something transparent that works at low temperatures.

Thanks,
Rasmus

 

[ann]

why would you thicken a developer?.

the developer has to move over the film in random fashion and i am having a hard time visually seeing a thick solution doing that.

have you experiment with different ratios of developers ?

 

[rbaek]

Hey Ann.

Thanks for the reply. Yes i work with different ratios. I am applying the developer to the paper using brushes, eye-dropper etc. so im looking for a way to thickening the developer to have more control of the image.

/Rasmus

 

[compur]

gelatin?

 

[rbaek]

yeah but don't i destroy the developer by heating it up?

 

[rbaek]

so no one knows of a thickener that works in cold liquid?

 

[compur]

Maybe if you tried a cooking forum ...

 

[Derrel]

cornstarch, arrow root, or maybe water that comes from boiling potatos or pasta--all proven cooking tricks for thickening liquids. I mean, if you're making gravy or soup, I can see a need to thicken the liquid in the case of cooking, but why would you need to thicken the "soup" you develop your prints in? I don't get it...

 

[jbylake]

I would think that the "residue" in cornstarch would contaminate the developer, to the point that it would ruin the prints?

J.:mrgreen:

 

[Torus34]

Acrylic extender medium.

 

[ann]

why not just use "chemical painting" on the print after the exposure?

 

[CSR Studio]

I have often painted developer on a print but I don't thicken the developer. Get a good artist brush with thick bristles. Works great.

 

[Jay DeFehr]

I think gelatin is your best bet. Take a small amount of your print developer, heat it up to 125F +/-, and add powdered gelatin, allow to cool. You'll have to experiment to find the best ratio of gelatin to developer, but you like to experiment, right?

I think I read somewhere about someone using a similar technique for selective toning or bleaching, but I don't remember the details.

Good luck!

Jay

 

[Paul Ron]

Plain unflavored gelatin (AKA Agar) at 100°F is all you'll need. Do some experimenting to see just how thick you want it once cooled.

Don't let your friends have any thinking they are jello shots!