Time to buy a good camera! HELP!!!

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  1. coolhandluke

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    Hi Guys

    I am totally new to this. All I know about photography is you slide your mobile phone open and press a button so as you can tell I may need a little guidance.

    I love looking at good photographs, to me a good photographer is as talented as a master painter. I have been lucky to visit some nice places and have always regretted not having a good snapper.

    So what I need to know is what equipment people would recommend. I would like to take some long distance wildlife shots and close-ups of insects etc. I would also like to do portraits. At the moment I am either thinking of getting a 40d with a couple of recommended lenses or a 50d with one lens and adding more lenses to it later.

    What lenses will I need and will I get much better pictures with the 50d than the 40d?

    One thing I do not want to do is upgrade equipment. I would rather take my time saving for kit than just buying rubbish and having to constantly upgrading.

    What are Sigma lenses like? They seem quite good value for money.

    What are the best beginner books.

    Thanks for reading!

    Luke
     
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    Lenes are far more important than the body. Especaily in this case. For insects you will want a decent macro lens and telphoto for the wildlife. You will have to wait for someone to give you advice on canon lenses as im a nikon guy. As far as sigma goes, they do make some good glass but they also make some awful ones too.

    As far as improving your photos is concerned, listen to the advice of others, dont be afraid to take risks and most importantly, shoot shoot shoot.
     
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    Hi Luke...
    If you have money to burn then go ahead and buy your dream camera and lens...
    BUT...
    Know that owning a 40D or a 50D with decent lenses will NOT magically produce "good" photographs...
    You 'may' get better quality pictures with a 40D/50D - but not until you have put in many hard miles of learning how to USE your new "snapper"...

    Going from a mobile phone camera to a 50D with an 85mm f1.4 is like being able to fly a kite and thinking about purchasing a Boeing 737...

    I'm all for supporting new entrants to photography - but you will be disappointed if you think that "better gear" = "better photography"
    Also - see here: http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/photography-beginners-forum-photo-gallery/177215-i-need-rant.html

    Jedo
     
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    In this case, better gear does equal better quality.

    And I'm pretty sure I figured out my first DSLR after using a 35mm P&S without too much problem. I still don't think I know how to fly a commercial airliner but I can get a kite up in the air fairly well...

    :er:
     
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    canon is introducing 7d, I think it may be worth to look at!
     
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    I have seen far too many SLRs gathering dust in the closet. My thinking is that you should first buy a half-way decent P&S camera and play with that for a while. Most of them do have manual controls so you can get a feel as to whether or not it's your bag. Don't think of it as a loss if you eventually do buy an SLR system. There will constantly be occasions when the SLR is neither convenient nor appropriate. I've been shooting SLRs since 1963 but I've never been without a P&S.

    By the way, lenses last indefinitely, especially if you buy Nikon, but you will regularly replace SLR bodies and flash heads.
     
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    Especially if you buy Nikon? Hasn't Pentax, Konika/Minolta, and other brands that are used by current DSLR manufactures been around for ages as well and can still be used on their current bodies?
     
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    Didn't you see the press release? All companies except Nikon were just started a few weeks ago. Their gear isn't proven yet.
     
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    It was his opinion, does it have to turn into yet another brand 'N' vs brand 'C' war?

    Good grief.

    (Edited since I admittedly know nothing about Canon systems.) :)
     
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    No, but it's like saying buy this because you won't miss out, but neglecting to inform a person that the other thisses that they could be purchasing also has that same option.
     
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    The price difference between a 40D body and 50D body isn't that much...maybe $250? And there aren't too many "good" $250 lenses out there. You could get the 50D with a "okay" lens or get the 40D with a "good" lens. Depends on your budget.
    Depends on the type of photography you're interested in. For wildlife photography you'll want a good telephoto/telephoto zoom (like the EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS USM). For close-ups of insects you'll want a good macro lens (EF 100mm f/2.8L USM Macro or the just released EF 100mm f/2.8L IS USM Macro).
    No. In fact, depending who you talk to, some feel the 40D produces better images than the 50D.
    That's smart...but you will eventually upgrade in the future...we all do. But if you do buy good kit now then you won't have to upgrade for awhile.
    Depends on the particular lens. Like any other brand, some lenses stand out and some don't...and some are just blah. Do your research.
    "Understanding Exposure" by Bryan Peterson is a good book to get. He also has a few other beginner type books that you might want to look at.

    The Digital Photography Books (volumes 1, 2 and 3) by Scott Kelby are popular.

    There are a few by Tom Ang that are popular...like "Fundamentals Of Photography", "Digital Photographers Handbook", "How To Photography Absolutely Everything".

    "The Photographer's Eye" by Michael Freeman is a good book on photo composition.

    "Light: Science & Magic - An Introduction To Photographic Lighting" by Fil Hunter, Steven Biver and Paul Fuqua is very good, highly recommended book on lighting.
     
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