tips for shooting in Raw mode? (digital)

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  1. Dew

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    i experimented with shooting in Raw mode (uncompressed, straight out of the camera, no features) for the first time ... i was very unpleased with the results :eek: .... do u have any tips or experience in Raw mode on your digital cam? .... editing tips? ... reason's for shooting in this mode? ... advantages?


    here are 2 sample photos i shot 5 seconds apart, one in Raw mode, the other minimal compressed .jpg with SHQ camera settings.. no additional editting was done on either .. straight out the camera, resized for web


    Raw mode

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    SHQ .jpg camera settings.. no additional editing done, just resized

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    That's wierd. My understanding is that raw is just a larger image file. There shouldn't be any color difference.
     
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    the way my camera manual explained Raw mode, there are no settings used, this includes: white balance, sharpening, iso, aperture, and contrast ... just as its suppose to be in "real life" ... now the room was dark when i photographed it, but the settings (aperture, iso, white balance) were set to get the result that i wanted...


    tiff for my cam is uncompressed data, with settings specified from the camera (aperture, iso, white balance, contrast and so on)
     
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    What color is the room?
    Is the raw file closer to the natural light?
     
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    the color of the room is a light blue, closer to the second color, but the room was dark, but with the settings of the camera, u can manipulate it to get the desired results (for example.. on dark/dim lit rooms, u would go with a higher iso) ... fyi, i always use the second photo settings, it gives me the results i want ... i played with the first one in photoshop and the "darkness/contrast" gave me some interesting looking b&w photos ...

    "why on god's earth would somebody choose Raw mode? :? ... is their a special reason for this?
     
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    im sorry, the color of the room is the first one, but it looks rather shabby :roll: ... there are 2 colors in the photo, green walls and the "make-shift" book stand is blue ... over towards the window is also green


    in the second photo, it makes everything blue ... when in fact, the "book stand" is blue and the walls are green :? ... but the first one does look a little "primitive" to me :no smile:
     
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    RAW mode is just that- raw. No corrections as your manual states. Why would you shoot raw? Because it's an uncompressed & uncorrected format you can apply custom settings for WB, sharpness etc. without losing anything of the original pic.

    Mostly used by people who like to seriously tweak photos trying to get the last bit of sharpness/color/whatever from their pics. Oh, and anybody shooting a Sigma SD-9, since it only shoots RAW mode. :wink:

    RAW is probably as close to film as digital can get at this point. It's what the lens saw. What you do with the result is up to you.

    If you're happy with the images you get in jpg mode you can probably skip RAW. If you're wanting to make large prints (>11x14) it's worth looking at. Unfortunately, not all RAW software is ready for prime time, but that will change as it becomes more common. Some folks can't live without it. YMMV. :)

    Jim
     
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    Hello Dew, thats odd, I always thought Raw was just uncompressed. Why go throught eh bother of using all the settings if it doesnt show up in the result? :0). Then again my camera doestn have raw mode, just jpg raw and jpg compressed, I use the 2nd, its the same as the first and 1/3 the file size. :0).

    What camera do you have?
     
  9. Dew

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    i've been experimenting a little more with it, on my hubby :lol: and im actually starting to like it ... it works great with b&w and duotone/tritones .. gives u great contrast ... they say u can get a plug in for PS to read Raw .. but it works great with Graphic Converter (for MAC) .. and i just transfer it to .tiff and work on it with PS .... this thing just may catch on :D

    .... i have an Olympus E20 (digital)
     
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    Hehe, computers.com doesnt have it but this other site that reviews cameras does. 4.5 stars out of 5, not bad. :0). But the price, wow. :0). Seems a bit high for a 5mp camera, for that price you can get 8 or 10mp some places. But maybe it produces a great picture with more ease and offers additional features. :0) Be nice if mine had a hotshoe for an additional flash or let me expose a picture longer than 3 seconds. *Smiles*.

    How's the weight and feel of it in your hands? :0).
     
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    this camera is great :D .. i love it ... it offers me total control ... the body is a little heavier than my other Olympus 2500L (or was it 2700L) ... with a wide angle lens its murder :x ... but its worth it.

    sure i could have gotten a higher MP cam for the price of this one ($1300 and some change) .. but i think there are other qualities that has to be considered. .. my first cam was an Olympus and i loved the quality .. so im sticking with it ... i love the colors it gives me ... it takes me 2 seconds to touch up my photos in PS (mostly resizing) ... i cant complain

    last night i was exposing my hubby in almost total darkness .. and his photos cam out crisp and clear, and i was in Raw mode :lol:
     
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    Did you use flash to take pictures of your husband or just use the natural ambient light? Im assuming the last one since you seemed amazed by it, and with a flash, its not that amazing thing, hehe. Although I was amazed how much my new digi light up a room with its flash when I first got it. :0).

    And you mentioned that it takes you a couple seconds per picture to resize them in ps, just thought Id mention that with my fujifilm finepix 3800 digital camera, the software it came with to download hte pictures off of the camera onto the hard drive lets you do a batch resize *something I found out the other day, after making a computer program to do this for me, thats not as user friendly as Id like it*, so I thougth Id mention that incase your software does that and you dont realize it. Mine wasnt obvious, I decided to right click on a picture to see if I could get properties or something and there was the option, along with some others, some of which I also made a program to do, hehe. Well im still making that program.

    And on a random note, I had an idea tonight, hehe. What if they made a camera that had a rotating lense/mirror on the front so you could take 9 simotaneous *spelling?* pictures in a row, a 3X3 grid to turn a 5mp camera into a "virtual" 35mp camera, with software that lets you stitch them up, hehe. Just a thought. *note to the camera companies that see this, if you use it, I expect royalties*, hehe.

    I think ive rambled enough here. Audiose.
     

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