To edit or not to edit?

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  1. swiminjane

    swiminjane TPF Noob!

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    Do you edit your pictures? I didn't used to buy I am not and am finding it really spruces up my photos but I have a bit of guilt when I do it because it's not my raw image.
     
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    Big Mike I am Big, I am Mike Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Why feel guilty?

    Photographers have been tweaking their images since photography was invented.
    Photographers used to (some still do) spend a lot of time in the darkroom.
    Now it's the 'digital darkroom'...but many of the tweaks are the same.

    Most people didn't realize, but when they took their film to the photo lab and waited for prints...the lab techs (or at least the machines on auto) were making tweaks to the images.
     
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    Editing is part of making a good photograph better.
    We didn't call it 'editing' when we were still in the darkroom, but adjusting exposure time, time in developer solution and much more were just part of the process.
    Don't feel guilty.
    Do feel guilty if you pass off a mediocre print that could have been made great with editing. Pros show only their best.
     
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    For Me, The Question has been Why Do People Post Images that are unedited? The Like to say "Its straight out of the Camera"? I think you should never post a pic until its looking its best. I would never post an unedited pic.
     
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    I am very proud that many of my pics stand alone without editing. Nut just like in my film days, many need a little tweak here, boost there. I take quite a few photos knowing what it will need done later.
    I keepthe camera settings fairly neutral, save the 'picture style' for later when I have full control.
    Just about all edit processes grew out of darkroom procedures.
    Stepping into digital PP was easy transition for darkroom veterans
     
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    For my fashion and model stuff, I would eliminate pimples or whatnot, sharpen the image a little (shouldn't need a lot), and play with curves till the contrast looks like what I saw when I was composing the image. Some cropping may be done as well.

    For anything else, I mostly just play with curves till the scene looks more like what I actually saw. Every once in a while, I'll punch up the colors just a little, but it's the same as when I used Kodak E100SW or Agfa Ultra 50. It's true that photographers have always enhanced their images in some way, but it used to be little tweaks - filters, film selection, darkroom tricks -and not the outright ridiculousness that I see now (but that's another thread, albeit a rehashed one, lol).

    My only "guilty" shots are these two (may not be work safe!!!!): Gabriel J. Diaz Photography. A bikini, and a towel on the pavement (to protect the uber-pricey new shoes we had on loan) had to be removed to make the picture that I wanted.

    On the other hand, my current avatar is pretty much straight out of the camera, as are 99% of my images.
     
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    try not to overdo it i guess ...

    your more of a digital graphic artist than a photographer that way IMO :)
     
  8. Garbz

    Garbz No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    No photographer posts images that are unedited.

    If you take a roll of film to a lab, they edit your images.
    If you shoot in JPEG format on a Nikon D200 and then plug the camera straight in to your printer, Nikon edited your pictures.

    If you take a RAW file edit it yourself, and send it to the printer with your own colour management settings YOU edited the image.

    Anyone who thinks otherwise should lookup the threads here on why the colour looks different in AdobeCameraRAW compared to Nikon JPEG, or why a Nikon D3s will produce a picture with different colours to a Canon 1DMkIII even given 100% identical settings.

    The only difference is who do you submit control to, some code junkie sitting at Nikon who doesn't have a clue what you're pointing your camera at when he designed those algorithms in your camera? Or do you take control yourself.
     
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    for me there is a big difference in making an image and doing pp as i would do in the darkroom and the attitude "I don't need to learn my craft because i will just fix it in Photoshop".

    I try to make the correct decision before firing the shutter to enable me to have lots of options for creative vision.

    Ansel Adams negatives allow him to make choice as they were well made . A lousy negative is limiting, as is a poor file.
     
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    Find me a photographer who is making a living off of his or her work and I'll show you someone who "edits" their image.
     
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    If you shoot film and drop your film at REAL lab, not the corner drug store, lab-techs do minor manipulation. As Mike said
     

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