Wedding photographers... what RAW software?

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  1. dewey

    dewey TPF Noob!

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    So I have been using lightroom for a while and I'm happy with it. I just started using Capture One LE because I got a free copy with a Sandisk card I bought. I haven't used it for an entire shoot yet. I like Lightroom more, but I think it's because that's what I'm used to, and CaptureOne is still new to me. It seems slower and it seems harder to go start to finish with it. Again I'm still learning it... don't freak out you Capture One addicts. :p

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    The question is who uses what for weddings? I typically use Lightroom & Photoshop. I'm open to changing my workflow if it will increase my speed or increase the quality of my postprocessing without adding alot of time. I'm working on processing a 2800 photo wedding today and speeding up processing is on my mind... go figure. :lol:

    Thanks for sharing.
     
  2. Big Mike

    Big Mike I am Big, I am Mike Staff Member Supporting Member

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    I use R.S.E. and Photoshop. I haven't tried Lightroom or Capture One, so I can't say anything about them.

    I like the RAW workflow of R.S.E. (which I'm guessing is close to Lightroom)...but my Photoshop workflow is too slow.

    Do you use any actions in Photoshop? That's the time/effort saver. I think I'm still too attached to editing every image individually based on what I think it needs...rather than getting close enough and batching a whole lot of files.

    Let us (me) know when you figure out a way to stream line you processing. I've read plenty about people's workflows but it's always a matter of personal taste.
     
  3. dewey

    dewey TPF Noob!

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    Great point on individual vs. batch treatment Mike.

    I "grade" photos on how much pp I will give them. Reception candid shots get a basic automated correction - not much input from me and no Photoshop - just lightroom. Formals and the important reception shots get individual treatment as needed in Photoshop. I have an action that opens adjustment layers and makes minor changes which is a real timesaver.
     
  4. Big Mike

    Big Mike I am Big, I am Mike Staff Member Supporting Member

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    So your action that opens adjustment layers...does it just create the layers and save the image for you to come back and edit individually? Do they automatically do a basic adjustment in the action or is it just to open them?

    I'm thinking that I could probably do that. It seems that I always create a levels layer and then a curves layer. The levels adjustments are similar but not the same for each image. The curves adjustment is almost always a slight S curve...so I could probably automate that.

    One thing that I don't like (or haven't figured out) with R.S.E. is how to list more than one category, once I have rated all the images. For example, I go through all the images and tag them with a 1, 2 or 3 (not counting the garbage). Then I go ahead and start the edit/convert process on the #1 files. Then I switch to the #2 group of images and basically do the same adjustments on the images as I did for the #1 pics. The #3 pics may or may not even get converted....but if I'm going to convert both the 1 & 2 images...why do I tag them separately in the first place?

    I think I'm rambling so I'll shut up now.
     
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    My default action opens the image, creates an adjustment layer for curves, levels, sharpness and contrast and hue / saturation. It makes a minor adjustment to each because as you mentioned it's frequently the same sort of adjustment. It then closes and saves the PSD for later tweaking. It's a set it and go to lunch action. :lol:

    I have tweaked this action a bit from time to time - I have one for reception candids because they're normally a little dark. I have one for formals to be a little easier on the skin tones.

    I find that on about 50% of the images I dont mess with them.. I leave it as is. The other 50% I find I have to adjust more or crop or clone something or dodge/burn etc. When I've edited them all I have another action that opens each PSD, flattens and resizes them and saves them as a JPG for web proofing. Again an action that is fast like the snail.

    Not sure about RSE - I would hope there is a way to do that!
     
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    Big Mike I am Big, I am Mike Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Excellent, thanks for the run down. I've messed around with making a few actions like that...but I haven't really committed myself to doing it properly yet.
     
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    Sure... when I get a chance I will post those actions here. One REALLY cool thing I use in lightroom in the built in web proofing. With a few clicks I can build web pages with numbered proofs. What's really neat is if I catch a mistake I can toggle back to editing mode and fix it, then toggle back to the web mode. On top of that Lightroom will dump the finished web pages on my website (built in FTP). I love that and it's a real time saver.

    It's like a chinese menu... my clients can email me back and say I want a #24 , a #9, a #92 extra spicy :lol:

    Do you do proofing online? I'd be interested to fond out how others do it.

    I've considered things like collages.net but I don't want to pay someone else a % of my sale for something I can do just fine.
     
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    Big Mike I am Big, I am Mike Staff Member Supporting Member

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    I don't have a real web site up and running yet...and it will probably just be a basic site, for now anyway. I haven't really nailed down how I want to work my proofing process. I'm only just starting out as a primary wedding photographer so I guess I'll work these things out as I go.

    I've been reading up on what others thing of those on-line proofing and print sales sites. I like the idea of not having to process the orders myself but then you do have to give up a percentage.

    Actually, I'm still trying to figure out what my main sales focus will be. Should it be selling prints or selling the files? I recently put together my price list for this year and I made packages that include either a print credit or the files on disc.
     
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    I'm not a wedding photographer, but I use C1 LE for my raw workflow and I love it. Use whatever you are comfortable and gives you the best results.
     
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    I use Capture One Pro 1, and it is really useful. In Taiwan we shoot a thousand photos per day, need a quick software to do it.
     
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    Bridge/ACR for RAW
    Russell Brown's Image Processor for batch conversion to TIFF
    Russell Brown's Jpeg 1-2-3 (for 3 different Jpeg sizes in one go) for batch Jpegs, coupled with Actions, if needed.
     
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    Dewey, when your clients call and say they want photos, how do you get them out to them? your printer? what do you do. i don't want to pay a lab a % of my prints but i do it. i work with digilabs.net and i LOVE them. can't be easier or better and the prints are simply amazing. you upload your proofs direct to their servers via their software and the photos along with pricing are just there after your upload. you set your prices. i do nothing else. clients visit their proofs, click what they want to order and they print and ship direct to them. same as pictage but they are really pricy and i can't afford it. after working with digilabs.biz though, they are all i need. good luck.
    steve
     

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