Well that didn't last long, D850 dethroned.

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  1. benhasajeep

    benhasajeep No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    I agree it's about value for what you get. Pentax K1 is probably the best "value" out there at the moment. And anyone who has said their lenses are subpar obviously has not used one. Pentax was the first company to make 10million slr's. Unfortunately they let "money" men take over the company and putting out the "best" is not on their list of things to do. And basically all they did was sell the company several times! At the detriment of the company and it's marketshare!


     
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    The 645z was/is a very nice imager! The sheer size of the new "MF" digital sensors in most cases is not "that much bigger" than FX digital, or 24x36mm sensor size. Ken Rockwell has a pretty good article on what he calls mezzo-format, or the new medium format sensor size, which is what most mfrs. are using now.

    I saw a comparison of the 654z I think it was versus the 36-MP Nikon D800 some time back; there was not that much difference, and in the AF arena, the Nikon was more capable than the Pentax was.

    The 645z was atrociously poor at video...horrific rolling shutter issue...but at high ISO levels, that BIG sensor and its BIG pixel wells was really quite,quite impressive!
     
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    chuasam Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    Olympus actually has about 25% market share in the mirrorless market.
     
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    Solarflare No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    I couldnt care less what DxOMark says. *shrug*
     
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    benhasajeep No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    DXO is just another metric to make a decision from! As you are researching for your purchase. Can't use it soley for your purchase decisions!
     
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    astroNikon 'ya all Bananas I tell 'ya Supporting Member

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    I'm glad I read this thread. I'll dispose of my thoughts of upgrading to the D850 and get the Hasselblad instead.

    by the way, is the Hassy under $400 dollars with kit lens and tripod, UWA lens, NDs and cleaning kit ?
     
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    pixmedic The Mustached Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

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    the interesting thing about researching cameras is that 90% of the information is subjective.
    actual camera specs are really the only hard facts. the rest is more or less opinion, or at the very least, involves some opinions.
    better images? a lot of subjectivity there. a lot also depends on the reviewer and their capability.
    AF might be based more on facts, but that too somewhat depends on the reviewer and the hope that they know how to properly use the camera and the AF mode for what they are shooting.
    nothing beats having the camera in hand to test yourself.
     
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    Unfortunately, given the fact that retail locations are fading away, how do you test one without buying it?
     
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    pixmedic The Mustached Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

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    well, im often in the same boat.
    for a number of years i was upgrading cameras once, sometimes twice a year. couldnt always get one in hand to test.
    I basically looked at as many reviews as i could find. i was invested in Nikon so...it was really a matter of just deciding if the newer camera
    was an upgraded i wanted or not.
    when we switched to fuji i spent weeks looking up reviews on various cameras and lenses, youtube videos...
    dxomark, dpreview, f-stoppers, forum posts...any place where i could see what an owners opinion of the camera was. moreso if they were actual photographers and could explain in better detail the functionality of the camera, and how they like the end results.
    thats about as good as i could do short of having a camera to test myself. honestly, it works pretty well.
     
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    jaomul Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    The key is being able to sort the important stuff from the less important and maybe the truth from the bs. I have bought some cameras in a local shop but their prices can be up to 50% more than online so can't always support local.

    I stopped buying a Nikon magazine when it compared a d3200 with a d3300 and gave the 3300 five stars for image quality and the 3200 only three stars, though six months before the d3200 got five stars. I had done enough research and comparison as I was looking for a second small camera. I considered this review dishonest, especially as the general target market for these cameras are new to dslr and would probably swallow the bs hook line and sinker
     
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