What is art? Volume 261

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  1. vintagesnaps

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    OK so I looked... I couldn't get thru all 5 min. So now I had to go look up that guy! What grad students??? Not finding anything about him teaching college courses much less grad school.

    It's just getting piled higher and deeper the more I look.


     
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    Sharon, Sharon, Sharon.

    We are living in the time of Alternate Facts. Reality and honesty are as dead as the idea that the earth is flat. One no longer needs to be enrolled in school to be a student as one does not need to be employed by a college to call themselves a teacher.

    All one needs to do now is say it loud enough, long enough and there are suckers, er I mean people that will believe it. You must not forget my dear Sharon that if it is on the internet, especially on YouTube then it has to be correct, for remember you can not lie on the internet.

    Now if you will excuse me, I have to go meet my daughters date. She met him on the internet. He's a French Model.
     
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    Who all watched the video?
     
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    I found his grad student............

     
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    I watched the whole thing -- poop and all.

    Joe
     
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    The ancient Greeks has muses associated with the creative activities, like epic and lyric poetry, and history (which is one reason I find Herodotus's "History" so much fun. But they had no muse of painting because it was not considered creative, merely copying. The highest praise for grapes painted on a wall was that rhey fooled the birds and they pecked at it. Talent, of course. Creativity? Another story.
     
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    My favorite muse is Terpsichore -- poor Rita Hayworth.

    Joe
     
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    You are showing your age. 1947 was a long time ago.
     
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    I thought it was ironic that The Prage video crank opined that the old masters "improved upon the work" of each generation before them. Ummmm, I wonder if he's ever seen the documentary done by (famous artist) David Hockney....you know...the documentary in which he proves the secret method of lens drawing that many old "masters" of painting used, as a way to make their paintings as CLOSE to the way the eye sees. Probably not.

    Hockney's documentary is entitled David Hockney's Secret Knowlege, and it is one of ***the*** most-important documentaries about art and artists that has been made in the last 20 years. Hockney explores, and recreates Vermeer, Caravaggio and Van Eyck masterpieces using the camera lucida. "improved upon the previoius generation"....ummm, not so much!

    I wonder if the Prager numbskull realized what effect *****photography***** had on representational painting by the beginning of the 1870's....I doubt he's familiar with the idea of paintings that push boundaries, or which make people think. I thought it funny that a guy professing to "teach" about art brought up no really important points as to WHY representational painting was dead by 1940.

    For the last 175 years, photography is what "materializes reality, as painting did in the past," as Hockney states.

    Watch just the 10:00 to 14:00 segment of Hockney's documentary, to understand how around 1420 A.D., lens drawing hit the world of "painting" like a freight train.
     
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    What we have here is a failure to communicate.
     
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    Check out Caravaggio's transition from a concave mirror-lens camera lucida to a LENS-based camera lucida, in about a one year time span. Start at 43:25. "Projections can now be almost any size you want."

    "improved upon each generation". Pfffft.

    Did that "professor" ever study anything after he graduated college in the 1970's? Has he updated anything in his brain? Or is he STILL ripping on evetry single artist post 1870? it seems so! Does he not understand that the "old masters" were for the most part, lens-drawers?
     
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    Not that anybody gives a darn:

     
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