Which Camera Nikon D300s or Canon 7D

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  1. saurabh

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    Hi I have been planning to buy my first DSLR camera and I am so confused about the camera which will suit my needs. I have a budget of about USD$2500 and I have two options one is D300s and Canon 7D. I can efford to buy Nikon D300s with Nikkor 16-85/3.5-5.6G ED VR lens and on the other side I can efford to buy Canon 7D with 18-135 kit lense.
    I need help to make a decision which one is really meant for me. Last and most important thing is that I will be using this camera for mostly Travel, Wildlife and Landscape photography. I want to start with one lens and later would add more better quality lenses as I go.
    Please help me.
     
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    The higher megapixel count of the Canon will allow you to crop more for your wildlife shots that you may not be able to get close enough to on foot. The 7D looks to be a better high ISO performer than the Nikon. Not sure about the Nikon, but the 7D has darn good weather sealing characteristics for your outdoor shooting. Are you into video at all? Canon is the DSLR video leader. Not saying the D300 is not a great body, because it actually is. But between the two, the Canon is superior.
     
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    Really?
    Got independent sample results? :)

    As per who?

    My best advice, is hold Canon and Nikon and see how it feels in your hand and to your heart. If it feels right (regardless of the brand) get it and enjoy it. It's like marriage, only cheaper (hope my wife doesn't read this :lmao:). IQ, both brands are amazing and will provide amazing results. Both have positives and negatives associated to them and both "Nikon is better" or "Canon is better" are subjective unless quantitatively evaluated and even then user bias will probably effect opinions :)
     
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    You'll most likely have Canon owners claiming the 7D is better and Nikon owners claiming the D300s is better.

    Hold each one in your hands... work through the system, play with the buttons, the menus, get a feel for it.

    Whichever one makes the most sense to you is the one you should buy because they are both very capable cameras.

    Having owned the D300s I can say it's an absolute workhorse, and yes - it's also weather sealed. Saying the Canon is superior and offers better high ISO is certainly your opinion... I'd also like to see how you came up with this solution, because from everything I've read it comes down to current gear and style preference.
     
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    They really are evenly matched. Neither really has the upper hand on the other in terms of image performance or ISO capabilities. The 7D does have more pixels, which is a blessing for some and a curse for others.

    I would also look at the available lenses and their costs. I think you will find Canon generally is more affordable than Nikon.

    One thing the D300S has that the 7D lacks is two card slots. I personally think all semi-pro and pro bodies should have dual card slots.

    It really boils down to personal preference and what you want to do with your camera. Regardless of which one you pick, you should be quite happy with the results.

    I would have a hard time picking between them myself if I were just starting out.
     
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    go play with both at a store, whichever feels better in your hand, and whichever's menus and button lay out you like better is the one you should go with! you will get a canon guy, like the second post from the top telling you 7D is a superior camera and you will get Nikon guys telling you the D300s is better! in all honesty both cameras are great! consider this though: you have to realize buying a camera of this magnitude is a commitment due to the fact that you have to buy Lens for it and thats where the money will be spent! so consider which lens maker you want to go with! higher end lens from Nikkor (nikon) are better quality but they are more expensive than the canons, so keep that in mind! good luck with you choice!!!!
     
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    the 16-85VR is a better lens than the Canon 18-135 for sure.

    I<3 the 7D, but i'd go for the D300 instead just because of your lens options.
     
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    I'm sorry, but things aren't that cut and dry. There are Nikkor lenses that are superior to Canon lenses and there are Canon lenses that are superior to Nikkor lenses. As a matter of fact, Canon's super telephotos are generally held to be superior to Nikkor lenses. Canon also offers a range of f/4 lenses that Nikkor doesn't offer.

    There are plenty of pros out there that have used both Canon and Nikon who prefer Canon lenses. Here's one such example of a former Canon shooter who switched to Nikon:

    photography tip tuesday | &#8220;The Switch&#8221; | week two: Nikon vs. Canon ยป Colorado Springs Portrait and Wedding Photographers: Real Photography Blog


    Here are some other observations from this pro about other features of Nikon vs. Canon:


     
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    Superior in what way?

    I've never seen any scientific tests or data on this, so a link would be appreciated.
     
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    I double checked my post and I confirmed I never said anything about "scientific". By "generally held", I mean why many photogs purchase one brand over the other.

    It's also generally held that Nikon has the advantage in wide angle lenses.

    From there, have fun with Google! :)
     
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    Preston Mack Photography: The switch to Nikon

    Here's professional sports and editorial shooter Preston Mack's story about his switch from Canon to Nikon. Why? It started with an art director telling him, "The cover image doesn't look in focus." Mack shoots for magazines like Time, Newsweek, Business Week, ESPN The Magazine, and Reader's Digest. You know, large, multi-million dollar magazines, with art directors with high standards for judging professional photographic results against those of other professionals, on a daily basis.

    Preston Mack's story is being told all across the world, as photographers leave Canon for Nikon cameras and lenses by the thousands. The 2008 Summer Olympics were a good example; at the Olympics, Robert Hanashiro from USA Today, also one who dropped Canon in favor of Nikon, noted that the dominance Canon once held was lost,as legions of Nikon cameras were in evidence at all the Olympic venues. USA Today dropped Canon equipment in favor of Nikon equipment as soon as the Nikon D3 hit the market in 2007.

    As Mack concludes, "When I was having my Canon "fire sale" on SportsShooter.com, many photographers emailed me asking if I switched and what my impressions of the new Nikon gear was. For me, I switched because the timing was right. Canon's flagship has a major defect, my EOS lenses were starting to show some age and more importantly, Nikon released a pair of the best digital SLRs ever made, the D300 and the D3. I could not be happier with them - it was not an easy to switch, but a necessary business decision."

    As Preston Mack noted, "Another improvement is the Nikon strobes. Canon strobes have always lagged behind Nikon's, and this is still true. I shot one wedding for my wife's business and we were able to compare the Canon 5D/580 EX combo against the D300/SB800 combo. The Nikon results were much more reliable and consistent. I rarely use on camera flash, so this isn't a major concern, but is worth noting."

    The Canon telephoto lenses inTempus claims are "superior" to Nikons are the Nikon lenses from the PRIOR generation; Nikon has an entirely new lineup of supertelephotos with VR: world-class 200,300,400,500,and 600mm lenses, all with VR and state of the art focusing capabilities, plus the world leader in long zooms, the 200-400 VR-Nikkor, which is a lens Canon has no equivalent for. Quite a few high-end shooters have left Canon over their lack of development of the semi-pro SLR body segment during the 10D-20D-30D-40D-50D series of incremental specification changes with no real upgrades to the camera or system,such as the inability to wirelessly command flashes, or to edit images in-camera, or to offer D-Lighting editing in-camera,etc, plus the same dated, tired 9-point AF system with a very narrow, center-biased area which the 7D has not improved upon. The 7D has more AF brackets, but the same narrow area of AF bracket coverage as the old 10D through 50D models. The real Canon failing however was the serious AF problems and issues that plagued the 1D Mark III, as well as the lure of pro-level AF and full-frame capabilities Nikon offers in a mid-level camera, the D700. Canon is still putting great sensors into basically a $350 Canon EOS Elan 3 film body and calling it the 5D series...a low-cost body with a nice digital sensor. Nikon's strategy since 2007 has been to put pro-level autofocus into the D300 and D700 and D3 series bodies, so that people starting out can have the same 51-area AF system and the same color-aware light metering and the same professional-level TTL flash control across a three-tier level of prices.

    It's probably hard to understand how different Canon and Nikon are until you pick up the cameras side by side.
     
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