My dad called my shortly from Colorado this avo and was telling me about his camera collection... he said he was going to put stuff up on ebay but i can could have any of the stuff of his I wanted. He has several nikons, a yashica mat, a mamiya (which he hates) but when he told me had a 4x5 camera called a horseman and my ears really perked up. He said it had bellows and needed a tripod to work it... I had a look in ksmattfish's collection and saw he didn't have one :shock: also i found a few on the net and some of their prices were astronomical! some where $5000+ USD. I am pretty excited about this, i knew me old man had some goodies and I am really excited about this find. He says he's gonna email me a list of his cameras and lenses soon (soon means a matter of months :roll: ) I have no idea how'll its gonna get to nz, but where there is a will there's way! So have any of you heard of horseman? Anyone ever used horseman cameras? Thanks for any input!!