who prices stock photography?

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  1. Luigi

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    good day,

    i was just wondering, who prices the photos, when you submit them to the different stock agencies - from istock and shutter stock to getty and corbis?

    on that point, do you or they determine the pricing factors for costing the photos?

    oh and last, how do you decide on RM or RF? what makes one photo work as RM and the other as RF?

    thanks!

    Luigi
     
  2. Josh66

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    They decide the price. Usually the more popular it is (more sales), the more expensive it is.

    If you choose to make buying the rights to the photo an option - you set the price for that.


    ...I'll let someone else answer the RM vs. RF part.
     
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    first, i think so!
    and i choose RM
     
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    Right Managed is basically a photo that has a model release. Royalty Free - means there is nothing on the image that is copy righted. With all stock sites you maintain your copyrights to the images unless you choose to personal sell them...which you dont want to do. Check out my website below for a list of good stock sites...in the sig.

    90% of stock sites set their prices, but there are a few that you can set...cutcaster is one of those.
     
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    Dreamstime and Stockxpert ( STOCKXPERT - Royalty free stock photography community ) are the only ones I like... These are the only two I bother putting new stuff on.

    I heard good things about 123RF so I thought I'd try them, but after SIX MONTHS I am still getting this:

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    I haven't even bothered trying to upload more. Those were all uploaded in JUNE. Not sure if that's normal for them, or if my pictures just 'got lost'.

    I know it takes a few days for your pictures to get approved, but that is ridiculous.

    Fotolia looks nice, but the view to sale ratio seems a little out-of-whack.
    Thousands of views, very few sales. After seeing pictures pinned to cubicle walls with Fotolia watermarks on them, I know why the view:sale ratio is so disproportional.

    Fotolia & iStock are the two main ones I see watermarked (****ty) prints from.
    Not sure why... It's not because of the effectiveness of the watermark. I think it's just that those are the two places all of the people who have no intention of paying something for a picture go.
     
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    First you need to understand the difference between a stock website and a stock agency.

    No stock agency sells an image for $ .25 the way some of the stock sites do. Then again, no stock agency will let you bring in a dozen photos and welcome you.

    Stock agencies require a minimum number of photos (usually a few hundreds) on one subject/theme before they even look at your work. Those photos need to all be great. Serious stock photography is a business, not something you send a couple photos to every week or so. On the other hand, if you do make it in, you can then expect very decent pay offs for your images.
     
  7. Josh66

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    Are you saying that I need to upload more to them to get anything approved (like they have been sitting there waiting for the rest of them for the last 6 months), or just generally commenting and not directly related to what I posted?

    I know that these 'micro stock' sites are a different animal than a real stock agency, and that $1 or less per image is pretty much a joke...

    That being said - on one hand, I don't mind. On the other, it annoys the hell out of me and makes me wonder why I ever even gave them anything.

    I never really considered it a "source of income", I mainly just did it as an experiment.
    I found out what I wanted to find out, and I still upload new stuff occasionally... Sometimes I wonder why, lol.
     
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    Well, Josh, I wasn't talking to you specifically. More like to anyone interested.

    And especially to anyone wanting to get an income out of it. Which is quite possible if it is approached right. Which is not going to happen with what you call "micro stock" and what I call "stock websites."

    The minimum I'm talking about is in relation to serious stock agencies. Without that minimum you just don't get in. Once you do get in, they do relax the requirements some. Mostly depending on how salable your photos are and, then, with time, how much they like you... lol.

    There is money in stock and there always will be because the planet keeps changing. But one has to be realistic. A stock agency does not want to look at your 12 monthly photos when they can sort thru another photographer's 999 that they know are going to be good enough to sell.

    There are a few dollars to be made with micro stock and maybe someone can tell us a story of actually making very nice dollars but I kind of doubt it.
     
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    It is possible... They say there that he makes $25,000 a month from stock (microstock, and regular stock agencies...most of his income is probably not from microstock). Not bad.
     
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    A month?

    I'd love to see the tax returns before I believe that one... :lmao::lmao::lmao:
     
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    It depends on the site. Most of the microstock sites set their prices themselves, meaning you upload a photo and the price is set the same as it is for every other photo. Prices may vary if your image is popular, or if you are exclusive but the same rules apply to everyone. A very small number of sites have tried a system where users can set their own prices. It has never worked very well.

    You decide where the image is RF or RM. All micro agencies are RF, Alamy takes both, Getty takes both.

    RF images can have people in them as well, but the people have to have signed a model release showing you have permission to take their photo.
     
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    I would think most set the price themselves
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