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The newest discussion on NOTE and OTE photos and members who decide for or against the one or the other makes me think further.
It is without question that any kind of critiquing/critisising any sort of someone else's work should at best be for that author's (in the broadest of senses) help - development - learning.
In that sense, any mark you get for any school assignment, plus the teachers' remarks on your work, should help you move forward, not make the mistakes again, develop yourself, learn.
Therefore I think that if a teacher went to rewrite your essay, or set about to re-draw your drawing, how much would you learn? What you get to see is your teacher's work. No longer your own ... along with your teacher's critique/critisism/remarks/mark.
Which makes me wonder in how far it helps to try and teach someone on the "here and now", i.e. on a photo that has already been taken at some point in time in the past, by changing said photo and saying: my changes make it better, when all in all any kind of critiquing/teaching should be future-bound, should be said so the NEXT photo can be done better to begin with?
Having said this, I want to underline that I am absolutely NOT opposed to PP work (whether it be with Photoshop or any other pp software), and I don't leave even ONE photo that I finally show untreated in pp software.
And I want to say that some photos shown here have more potential in themselves than has been realised by their author. And in those cases, more so when the photo author says "Could someone show me how to change this", I am very willing to do so.
All in all, though, to my mind critique should be directed to the FUTURE, to photos still to be taken, and that is when I feel words should be used for critique, explanations, so that in their future as hopefully always better photographers our members here can use those explanations and apply them themselves to their future photos --- and possibly right from the start, in their composition, exposure settings etc.
Learning by doing has proved to be the most effective, and critiquing/teaching should give the means, the guidance, the help. My mind...
It is without question that any kind of critiquing/critisising any sort of someone else's work should at best be for that author's (in the broadest of senses) help - development - learning.
In that sense, any mark you get for any school assignment, plus the teachers' remarks on your work, should help you move forward, not make the mistakes again, develop yourself, learn.
Therefore I think that if a teacher went to rewrite your essay, or set about to re-draw your drawing, how much would you learn? What you get to see is your teacher's work. No longer your own ... along with your teacher's critique/critisism/remarks/mark.
Which makes me wonder in how far it helps to try and teach someone on the "here and now", i.e. on a photo that has already been taken at some point in time in the past, by changing said photo and saying: my changes make it better, when all in all any kind of critiquing/teaching should be future-bound, should be said so the NEXT photo can be done better to begin with?
Having said this, I want to underline that I am absolutely NOT opposed to PP work (whether it be with Photoshop or any other pp software), and I don't leave even ONE photo that I finally show untreated in pp software.
And I want to say that some photos shown here have more potential in themselves than has been realised by their author. And in those cases, more so when the photo author says "Could someone show me how to change this", I am very willing to do so.
All in all, though, to my mind critique should be directed to the FUTURE, to photos still to be taken, and that is when I feel words should be used for critique, explanations, so that in their future as hopefully always better photographers our members here can use those explanations and apply them themselves to their future photos --- and possibly right from the start, in their composition, exposure settings etc.
Learning by doing has proved to be the most effective, and critiquing/teaching should give the means, the guidance, the help. My mind...