Why you alway have to choose-? Sigma or nikkor

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  1. minister

    minister TPF Noob!

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    It may seems very obvious question
    I am stuck with two lens one is sigma APO DG 70-300 and nikkor 55-200 with
    nikon d5000


    but as I compare some says nikkor has VR which will have upper hand on sigma but some says sigma has APO technology which will help

    my main concern is macro+zoom with best pic quality ,seeing popularity trend nikkor is leading.
    As of now I only have 18-55 kit lens only so this will be my first one I know some people will suggest get 50mm 1.8 I know but as I am not much interested in portrait (ll get after my first baby , after 7 month he he he ) I first want to have zoom and macro please you all TPF freaks help me in this
    If I compaire picture taken by both lenses sigma seems very promissing.May be I am wrong, I checked it in Flickriver - A new way to view Flickr photos and more... choosing lenses.
     
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    tirediron Watch the Birdy! Staff Member Supporting Member

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    It's a tough choice, but it really boils down to your requirements for the lens. You indicate that you want macro capability; neither of these lenses has that (Despite the fact that Sigma labels theirs as a 70-300 macro, it's only capable of 2:1 or half life-size NOT 1:1).

    Those points aside, and assuming that budget is not a factor, I would lean toward the 70-300; while not a true macro lens, it will get you closer than the 55-200 will, and the 100-450 mm equivalent focal length on your camera is very useful.

    The only other point that I would consider is the lack of any sort of vibration reduction in the 70-300; this is not a huge problem though as long as you remember to keep your shutter speed high enough.
     
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    minister TPF Noob!

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    and what you think about picture quality , whose will be better ,
     
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    tirediron Watch the Birdy! Staff Member Supporting Member

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    I think it will be so similar that I doubt very much that you would be able to detect any discernable difference unless you are looking at 100% crops from the outer edges shot wide open.
     
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    Here's a sample using the Sigma 70-300mm macro which I borrowed from a friend this weekend:

    Macro:

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    Non Macro:

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    There was some CA with the Sigma on some shots and I did feel I missed the VR when I shot at the long end. Otherwise I was surprised at the shots I was able to get. I also had a chance to use a true macro - the Nikkor 105mm f/2.8 - the older non-vr version - sweet. The Sigma is slow - I have some fast glass and I found this to be the biggest problem with the lens.

    I liked having the "macro" option even though it's not true macro.

    As for my own macro needs, I think I will be going with the Sigma 150mm macro.

    HTH
     
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    Wide Open the Nikon will be a bit better. At f/8 and beyond the Sigma really comes to life and when you start to shoot "macros" at f/11-f/13 (or even f/22) it really comes to life. For a lens that goes to 1:2 for near macro it is incredible...it is what I started my macro journey on and it was such a great lens that people were always shocked that my closeups were done with this lens.

    To give you some examples.....
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  7. minister

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    @Nates the pictures you provided almost made my design to go for sigma , BTY can you please tell me APO is for image quality ?
     
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    don't worry about the techs the lens have but if you can take the photo you need with it.

    I have lenses that are lucky to be AF-S and have a newish coating
     
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    I found one sigma 70-300 APO DG nikon fit , but i am not sure will it autofocus on my d5000 as seller is also unaware of it, all I wanted to know dose sigma makes 70-300 apo dg lens for nikon without motorized ,

    though seller says lens is nikon fit
     
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    You definitely want the APO version..much sharper and better contrast.

    Yes, they made a 70-300 APO without the focus motor built in...I have one and would have offered it to you for sale if you had a camera with the motor or if mine was the newer version.

    If it has the built in motor, there will be a switch on the bottom of the lens saying AF/MF. If it doesn't have this switch then it is the older version without the built in motor.

    Look at the link below and click the pictures to see the switch I"m talking about. If I was you, I would just order the one below as 209 is a pretty cheap price new and the built in motor versions haven't been out very long....you'll be hard pressed to find one used.
    Sigma - 70-300mm f/4-5.6 APO DG Macro Autofocus Lens - 5A8306 -
     
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    yes you are right that was no auto focus i have to find again
     
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    I've used both. I sold the Sigma a few days after I got it. At 200mm+, you NEED some kind of image stabilization because as your focal length increases, so does camera shake. With the Nikkor, the VR really helps. Of course, non of this really matter if you plan to use the tripod a lot because that can compensate for the non-VR lenses. Personally, I prefer to not carry around a tripod, so I stuck with the 50-200 nikkor and I love it.
     

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