You Know It's Kind Of Funny

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  1. Mike_E

    Mike_E No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    You know it's kind of funny when you think of all the angst people have about using P or Auto mode or sometimes even Matrix metering but not a word is said about using iTTL or eTTL or really even Auto for their flash work.

    Does the elitism end where the work begins? :lmao:
     
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    Also not a word about the mirror automatically swinging out of the way or the lens automatically stopping down. Yesterday's "Gee whiz, that's amazing" is today's SOP.

    There's absolutely nothing wrong about automation if it helps you produce the photo that you want.
     
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    I honestly don't see that much difference between P mode or Aperture priority or Speed priority. I don't know about other cameras but to me it's like being able to quickly switching back and forth.

    I still use mostly aperture priority and full manual...
     
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    I second that
     
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    Haha I'm baffled by people that have photo-angst anyway. Like the point of creating art is to be irritated by those that do things differently???

    :scratch:
     
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    I have a theory and where my angst comes from. P/Auto takes away aperture control. It's the only setting on the camera that removes a possible element of composition from the hands of the photographer. That's my thought anyway.

    Personally I haven't switched my D200 out of matrix mode. I've learnt how it behaves and can compensate it's stuff ups before firing a test shot.

    But how do you compensate for Program mode? Easy Switch to Aperture Priority :p

    ^^^^ My view won't change, no point in arguing with me. You don't need to accept this as your view just don't tell me I'm wrong.
     
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    Maybe your P mode is different than mine. On my GX-10 in p-mode the front weel selects the Aperture and the back one the speed. Whichever one you use last becomes the priority and the other settings adapt.

    I feel like there has to be another difference though, but i haven't figured out what it is.
     
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    ^^ I'm always satisfied with the best.

    The best happens to be what works best for your particular needs.

    Nothing wrong with that.
     
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    But ... but... P (at least on my Canons) allows you to select aperture...

    ;)

    All tools folks....
     
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    On Canon DSLRs, P, Av and Tv all use the same metering. All allow you to select aperture and shutter. So the results will be the same, unless you do not ever override the cameras choice (program shift). So using Av mode and choose f/8, or P mode and spin the wheel to f/8, they are the same, and will use identical shutter speeds.
    I use P mode 90% of the time, except for flash (where I manually set aperture and shutter, but the flash exposure is still auto of course).
    The remaining 10% are mostly M mode, having chosen the shutter/aperture by aiming the camera at something (gray card, grass, road) to choose the settings.
    Of course there are exceptions, but I never get why the big debate about what mode. In most cases they use the same metering algorithms anyways.
     
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    So (to but in and ask a really simple question) if I am using a canon and I shift from Av to p mode - what is the difference?
     
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    Yeah they do on the Nikons too. I point my camera outside and it gives me something like 1/500 f/8, if I turn the wheel it switches to P* and gives me options like 1/250 f/11 or 1/1000 f/5.6, but the aperture is never locked in place. So when I go into the shade suddenly the camera feels like it can't give an acceptable shutter at f/8 anymore and drops me to f/4.5.
    But when I select an aperture I damn well mean it. :lol: Maybe it's just Nikon shenanigans. But in A mode it doesn't matter how dark or light it will get, I am the one that changes the aperture and thus the depth of field, not the camera.
     

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