Advice on buying this enlarger

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I found a used Besler 23Ciii enlarger looks to be clean and complete except missing lens and lens mount card. I think I remember these as being great enlargers. What is the difference between the 23cii and the 23ciii? Is it easier to find parts for both? Are they interchangeable? Will I have trouble finding a lens? They are asking $100.00 Any advice would be appreciated. Doing black and white only.
 

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That's a fairly common enlarger, so finding a lens board won't be much of an issue. Lenses are a dime a dozen these days.
 

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Go for it.

Today there are GREAT deals on GOOD lenses. Just be patient when shopping.
You don't have to do what I did when I started, and had to settle for "economy" lenses that I could afford.
I have since replace those economy lenses with El-Nikkor and Schneider Componon-S lenses.
 
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Go for it.

Today there are GREAT deals on GOOD lenses. Just be patient when shopping.
You don't have to do what I did when I started, and had to settle for "economy" lenses that I could afford.
I have since replace those economy lenses with El-Nikkor and Schneider Componon-S lenses.
So if using other than Besler lens do I need some type of adapter to fit the enlarger mount?
I will be using primarily for 35mm B&W enlargements of no larger than 11X14
 

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You'll simply need to source a lens board designed for both the enlarger as well as a hole in it that matches the lens.
 

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You'll simply need to source a lens board designed for both the enlarger as well as a hole in it that matches the lens.

As I remember, the standard size lens mount uses a 39mm hole.
There are other mount sizes, but 39mm is the most common.
 

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So if using other than Besler lens do I need some type of adapter to fit the enlarger mount?
I will be using primarily for 35mm B&W enlargements of no larger than 11X14

As was said, just get a lens board for a 39mm lens mount.
Then ANY enlarger lens with a 39mm mount will fit.
 
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As was said, just get a lens board for a 39mm lens mount.
Then ANY lens with a 39mm mount will fit.
The common enlarger lens thread is 39mm diameter with a thread pitch of 26 turns per inch. There was also a camera lens thread of 39mm diameter with a thread pitch of 1mm. I'm not familiar with the latter but, while close, they are not interchangeable. As you say, any 39mm enlarger lens board will be the correct pitch.
 

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From @webestang64 link, you need to get the correct lensboard and lens, for the film format you are printing.
35mm film, printing 11x14 = 50mm lens on a #8021 lensboard.

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One thing to note.
Looking on the web at pictures of various Beseler lensboards, some are threaded, some are not. I don't know if the #8021 is threaded or not. If the lensboard is NOT threaded, you will need a matching threaded retaining ring to secure the lens onto the lensboard.
 

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Thanks for that link it will be very helpful if I get this enlarger. Still not sure between the Omega and the Besler

Ha, that is like Nikon and Canon. Both are good enlargers.
I am partial to Omega, because that is what I used and am familiar with.
You can't go wrong with either.
 

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I've liked using the Beseler 23c series enlargers. Never used an Omega. I think Beseler is still making enlargers. If you get this enlarger hope you enjoy using it.
 

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