am i wrong?

[table1349]

Home school........Private School...........move to a new location.........live with it.

See plenty of ways to solve the problem.

 

[IronMaskDuval]

some opinions needed.


my oldest gets a ipad 4 from school. In return i pay 25 dollars a year and have to sign a contract. i have done this two years in a row. I dont even have a cellphone contract i pay for cards when i want one but signed this for my kid to have a ipad to bring home (it is the new thing i guess they bring home homework etc on it).
The contract stipulates the first time it breaks the parent is responsible for 50 dollars. second time the replacement or repair costs.
kid broke it. no problem. pay the 50.
But the way i think about it, if my kid breaks another one i eat the cost of the ipad.
on top of the 25 dollars a year. Plus my kid isn't allowed to take it home for the summer.

so doing the math. i figured i would just pay the fifty to the school for the one my kid broke. And forget the contract just buy my kid a ipad (made more sense to me, sorta in the long run)

so i bought a couple ipad 4's. one for me and the wife to play with, one for my kid to replace the one my kid was nolonger getting from school. Like i said, it made sense.

But the school now says she isn't allowed to use the one i bought her, as no outside electronic devices are allowed. They block the one from the school they issue. Apparently, i have no choice BUT to sign the contract. which i am kind of annoyed over especially since now i bought her a ipad instead of going with the school issue one.

i didnt want the contract though, if my kid broke it again, i would be out the cost of the ipad (might as well just buy her one) plus paying the yearly fee plus my kid couldnt take it home in the summer. i just didnt see the point of it. They charge FULL replacement cost too. Not like bay price even if it is beat to crap..

oh, i guess supposedly i dont "have" to have the contract. Just my kid doesnt get a school ipad. which is what they do work on. my kid is honor roll. I dont want to screw up the education here. If i dont have the school contract, and they wont let the home ipad go to school, i am pretty positive it will effect the grades. I think they are wrong. i think she should be able to use the ipad i bought her. just like if i buy her school supplies, a calculator, sport stuff school related. But the policy is she isn't allowed to. No electronic devices and she isn't allowed to use if for school or in school. That i basically have to go with the school contract and school issue one.

I was hesitant to read your novel, but since you took the time to look at my awful photos, I would at least respond. For $25/ year, I can dig it, but to pay full replacement after the second time it breaks is stupid. I would assume that the $25/year pays for insurance, and every company I've known will replace the broken electronic as long as you continue to purchase the insurance.

But, as another poster said, you shouldn't pick this fight for the sake of your daughter. Can she use the school issued just in class and use her own at home? I would try everything to mitigate the risk of a break.

 

[syaudi]

a lot of schools are trying to use school-issued iPads to try and integrate what kids love - electronics and games! - with learning, so they're putting more effort into lessons involving the iPad. imho having an iPad won't cripple OP's daughter, but there will probably be some topics she's going to have to self-study since she didn't do the same iPad activities as the other children.

 

[gsgary]

a lot of schools are trying to use school-issued iPads to try and integrate what kids love - electronics and games! - with learning, so they're putting more effort into lessons involving the iPad. imho having an iPad won't cripple OP's daughter, but there will probably be some topics she's going to have to self-study since she didn't do the same iPad activities as the other children.

So you have got to have an ipad to learn thats ridiculous

 

[vintagesnaps]

I worked for 20+ years with children in the birth to three age range, but before that I did teach junior high and all I can say is thankfully it was before pads and pods and smart phones - they'd come up with enough things to get into trouble doing without various devices!

I can understand why a school would say no outside devices, period.

Education varies state to state, and in various districts so it depends - next year before school starts read the district web site or handbook or whatever they make available and get informed on policies, etc.

Depends on where you live, tenure in my area has changed and it's not so easy for bad teachers to stay on anymore. I think most other jobs that require a college degree (and in my state) licensure pay much more than teaching jobs do, even if you allow for working a 9 month job. My job changed to year round and was still in a pay range well below other careers.

In any field of work there probably is always a small number of employees that aren't that great at their jobs; don't lump educators like Leonore and me who work hard and put care and effort into what we do with those few bad apples who don't.

 

[table1349]

a lot of schools are trying to use school-issued iPads to try and integrate what kids love - electronics and games! - with learning, so they're putting more effort into lessons involving the iPad. imho having an iPad won't cripple OP's daughter, but there will probably be some topics she's going to have to self-study since she didn't do the same iPad activities as the other children.

So you have got to have an ipad to learn thats ridiculous

I know, it's almost like having to have books to learn. Who would have thunk it.

Hard cover text books are expensive and wear out/get destroyed too easily. Downloading the same thing as a file is much cheaper and has advantages of being able to actually use the text book not just read it. You can highlight important materials, add notes to important materials, book mark important materials all with out having to worry about defacing a book that you have to turn in at the end of the year.

As for college, where was this when I was in school. No running out of text books at the Student Union store. So much cheaper than that $250.00 Chemistry book and again with all the above advantages.

It's a new world with new technologies, which it kind of funny to have to point out on a Photography Forum these days.

 

[tirediron]

...Downloading the same thing as a file is much cheaper and has advantages of being able to actually use the text book not just read it. You can highlight important materials, add notes to important materials, book mark important materials all with out having to worry about defacing a book that you have to turn in at the end of the year...

Yeahbut.. as soon as you bend the corner of the iPad over to mark your place...

 

[table1349]

...Downloading the same thing as a file is much cheaper and has advantages of being able to actually use the text book not just read it. You can highlight important materials, add notes to important materials, book mark important materials all with out having to worry about defacing a book that you have to turn in at the end of the year...

Yeahbut.. as soon as you bend the corner of the iPad over to mark your place...

But a neon yellow highlighter shows up so well on the glass screen, and wipes off soooo easy.

Plus no more 40 pound kids lugging a 30 pound backpack full of books. 30 pounds worth of books in a 1.5 pound package.

 

[gsgary]

...Downloading the same thing as a file is much cheaper and has advantages of being able to actually use the text book not just read it. You can highlight important materials, add notes to important materials, book mark important materials all with out having to worry about defacing a book that you have to turn in at the end of the year...

Yeahbut.. as soon as you bend the corner of the iPad over to mark your place...

But a neon yellow highlighter shows up so well on the glass screen, and wipes off soooo easy.

Plus no more 40 pound kids lugging a 30 pound backpack full of books. 30 pounds worth of books in a 1.5 pound package.

Another reason why kids are getting fatter they just sit in with their ipad playing games thats progress for you

 

[Buckster]

There are a ton of good, solid reasons to switch from paper books to electronic.

First and foremost are the overall cost savings to the taxpayers. Updated E-textbook revisions / replacements cost little to nothing, whereas paper textbooks have always costed us WAY too much and have a very limited lifespan. It saves paper. It saves the environment from the chemical pollution that comes out of paper mills. It saves trees. Tests can be done on them and "handed in" electronically, again saving paper costs, copier machine costs, time and money spent by staff to do all the behind the scenes work moving paper around, making copies, reading and grading papers and tests that typically use multiple choice, rather than essay, which can be more quickly and efficiently done by computer, etc., etc., etc.

That's just the tip of the iceberg, but good enough reasons for moving from paper books to electronic devices like tablets.

As for why the school will not accept home machines, I can think of some good reasons for that as well. First, one must consider that the machines will be interfacing with the school's network computers. That brings with it the risks of hacking, virus, etc. I can imagine the possibility that the school's issued devices have safeguards in place to help prevent those kinds of e-threats.

It may also be the case that the school gets discounts or financial help with the devices only by agreeing to buy and use truckloads of them. In order to fulfill that obligation, they find it most useful to limit participation only to those who use the school-sanctioned devices.

These are all questions for the school board however. Only they can provide the exact reasoning behind their decisions, and only then can the parents decide whether they make sense or not, and hence whether to support the current school board members in the next election.

 

[gsgary]

There are a ton of good, solid reasons to switch from paper books to electronic.

First and foremost are the overall cost savings to the taxpayers. Updated E-textbook revisions / replacements cost little to nothing, whereas paper textbooks have always costed us WAY too much and have a very limited lifespan. It saves paper. It saves the environment from the chemical pollution that comes out of paper mills. It saves trees. Tests can be done on them and "handed in" electronically, again saving paper costs, copier machine costs, time and money spent by staff to do all the behind the scenes work moving paper around, making copies, reading and grading papers and tests that typically use multiple choice, rather than essay, which can be more quickly and efficiently done by computer, etc., etc., etc.

That's just the tip of the iceberg, but good enough reasons for moving from paper books to electronic devices like tablets.

As for why the school will not accept home machines, I can think of some good reasons for that as well. First, one must consider that the machines will be interfacing with the school's network computers. That brings with it the risks of hacking, virus, etc. I can imagine the possibility that the school's issued devices have safeguards in place to help prevent those kinds of e-threats.

It may also be the case that the school gets discounts or financial help with the devices only by agreeing to buy and use truckloads of them. In order to fulfill that obligation, they find it most useful to limit participation only to those who use the school-sanctioned devices.

These are all questions for the school board however. Only they can provide the exact reasoning behind their decisions, and only then can the parents decide whether they make sense or not, and hence whether to support the current school board members in the next election.

Sorry but I don't think this is a good way to learn

 

[Buckster]

There are a ton of good, solid reasons to switch from paper books to electronic.

First and foremost are the overall cost savings to the taxpayers. Updated E-textbook revisions / replacements cost little to nothing, whereas paper textbooks have always costed us WAY too much and have a very limited lifespan. It saves paper. It saves the environment from the chemical pollution that comes out of paper mills. It saves trees. Tests can be done on them and "handed in" electronically, again saving paper costs, copier machine costs, time and money spent by staff to do all the behind the scenes work moving paper around, making copies, reading and grading papers and tests that typically use multiple choice, rather than essay, which can be more quickly and efficiently done by computer, etc., etc., etc.

That's just the tip of the iceberg, but good enough reasons for moving from paper books to electronic devices like tablets.

As for why the school will not accept home machines, I can think of some good reasons for that as well. First, one must consider that the machines will be interfacing with the school's network computers. That brings with it the risks of hacking, virus, etc. I can imagine the possibility that the school's issued devices have safeguards in place to help prevent those kinds of e-threats.

It may also be the case that the school gets discounts or financial help with the devices only by agreeing to buy and use truckloads of them. In order to fulfill that obligation, they find it most useful to limit participation only to those who use the school-sanctioned devices.

These are all questions for the school board however. Only they can provide the exact reasoning behind their decisions, and only then can the parents decide whether they make sense or not, and hence whether to support the current school board members in the next election.

Sorry but I don't think this is a good way to learn

Sorry, but I doubt anyone particularly cares if you think it is or not. Welcome to the future, where digital cameras exist, and so do digital textbooks.

 

[gsgary]

There are a ton of good, solid reasons to switch from paper books to electronic.

First and foremost are the overall cost savings to the taxpayers. Updated E-textbook revisions / replacements cost little to nothing, whereas paper textbooks have always costed us WAY too much and have a very limited lifespan. It saves paper. It saves the environment from the chemical pollution that comes out of paper mills. It saves trees. Tests can be done on them and "handed in" electronically, again saving paper costs, copier machine costs, time and money spent by staff to do all the behind the scenes work moving paper around, making copies, reading and grading papers and tests that typically use multiple choice, rather than essay, which can be more quickly and efficiently done by computer, etc., etc., etc.

That's just the tip of the iceberg, but good enough reasons for moving from paper books to electronic devices like tablets.

As for why the school will not accept home machines, I can think of some good reasons for that as well. First, one must consider that the machines will be interfacing with the school's network computers. That brings with it the risks of hacking, virus, etc. I can imagine the possibility that the school's issued devices have safeguards in place to help prevent those kinds of e-threats.

It may also be the case that the school gets discounts or financial help with the devices only by agreeing to buy and use truckloads of them. In order to fulfill that obligation, they find it most useful to limit participation only to those who use the school-sanctioned devices.

These are all questions for the school board however. Only they can provide the exact reasoning behind their decisions, and only then can the parents decide whether they make sense or not, and hence whether to support the current school board members in the next election.

Sorry but I don't think this is a good way to learn

Sorry, but I doubt anyone particularly cares if you think it is or not. Welcome to the future, where digital cameras exist, and so do digital textbooks.

And fat slobs that sit playing with their ipads, roll on diabetes epidemic

 

[Buckster]

There are a ton of good, solid reasons to switch from paper books to electronic.

First and foremost are the overall cost savings to the taxpayers. Updated E-textbook revisions / replacements cost little to nothing, whereas paper textbooks have always costed us WAY too much and have a very limited lifespan. It saves paper. It saves the environment from the chemical pollution that comes out of paper mills. It saves trees. Tests can be done on them and "handed in" electronically, again saving paper costs, copier machine costs, time and money spent by staff to do all the behind the scenes work moving paper around, making copies, reading and grading papers and tests that typically use multiple choice, rather than essay, which can be more quickly and efficiently done by computer, etc., etc., etc.

That's just the tip of the iceberg, but good enough reasons for moving from paper books to electronic devices like tablets.

As for why the school will not accept home machines, I can think of some good reasons for that as well. First, one must consider that the machines will be interfacing with the school's network computers. That brings with it the risks of hacking, virus, etc. I can imagine the possibility that the school's issued devices have safeguards in place to help prevent those kinds of e-threats.

It may also be the case that the school gets discounts or financial help with the devices only by agreeing to buy and use truckloads of them. In order to fulfill that obligation, they find it most useful to limit participation only to those who use the school-sanctioned devices.

These are all questions for the school board however. Only they can provide the exact reasoning behind their decisions, and only then can the parents decide whether they make sense or not, and hence whether to support the current school board members in the next election.

Sorry but I don't think this is a good way to learn

Sorry, but I doubt anyone particularly cares if you think it is or not. Welcome to the future, where digital cameras exist, and so do digital textbooks.

And fat slobs that sit playing with their ipads, roll on diabetes epidemic

Please provide the independent scientific evidence that ipads lead to diabetes at your earliest convenience. Links will be fine.

 

[gsgary]

There are a ton of good, solid reasons to switch from paper books to electronic.

First and foremost are the overall cost savings to the taxpayers. Updated E-textbook revisions / replacements cost little to nothing, whereas paper textbooks have always costed us WAY too much and have a very limited lifespan. It saves paper. It saves the environment from the chemical pollution that comes out of paper mills. It saves trees. Tests can be done on them and "handed in" electronically, again saving paper costs, copier machine costs, time and money spent by staff to do all the behind the scenes work moving paper around, making copies, reading and grading papers and tests that typically use multiple choice, rather than essay, which can be more quickly and efficiently done by computer, etc., etc., etc.

That's just the tip of the iceberg, but good enough reasons for moving from paper books to electronic devices like tablets.

As for why the school will not accept home machines, I can think of some good reasons for that as well. First, one must consider that the machines will be interfacing with the school's network computers. That brings with it the risks of hacking, virus, etc. I can imagine the possibility that the school's issued devices have safeguards in place to help prevent those kinds of e-threats.

It may also be the case that the school gets discounts or financial help with the devices only by agreeing to buy and use truckloads of them. In order to fulfill that obligation, they find it most useful to limit participation only to those who use the school-sanctioned devices.

These are all questions for the school board however. Only they can provide the exact reasoning behind their decisions, and only then can the parents decide whether they make sense or not, and hence whether to support the current school board members in the next election.

Sorry but I don't think this is a good way to learn

Sorry, but I doubt anyone particularly cares if you think it is or not. Welcome to the future, where digital cameras exist, and so do digital textbooks.

And fat slobs that sit playing with their ipads, roll on diabetes epidemic

Please provide the independent scientific evidence that ipads lead to diabetes at your earliest convenience. Links will be fine.

Not ipads only but it is fact that kids have got lazy with all this technology they just sit in and play games