Are we ruining the best places?

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  1. JonFZ300

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    Two thoughts

    1. Inconsiderate people doing inconsiderate things is the new norm.

    2. "Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded."


     
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    We have places here where you can see the tri pod holes in the ground from everyone using the same spot
     
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    I like that comment, "Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded. "
     
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    It isn't just photographers, "faux" or otherwise.

    One of our favorite hiking trails got written up in the Times or some travel site, or something. Because it's right off a train stop on a commuter line, this meant hordes of people from the city started day-tripping. Then it became one of the most popular hikes in the whole country and it got so much worse. And it's not like it's attracting serious hikers, either. Most of them have no idea what they are doing. I mean, it's called Breakneck Ridge, fer cryin' out loud, and has sections that require three-point climbing, and yet they had to start putting "stewards" at the trailhead and on the trail itself to turn people away for wearing flip flops, or for trying to go up an hour before sunset, or with no water. There are also stewards on the trail to keep from getting lost (the 911 folks were getting tired of getting calls from people who don't know how to read a trail map or blazes.) Last year, they were going to close it down because there was so much damage to the trail. Decided to keep it open, though, which is kind of disappointing. I'd rather see it closed for a few years to recover, then reopened after most people have forgotten about it.

    One Of America's Most Popular Hiking Spots Is Located In The Most Unexpected Place

    We haven't been hiking there in years. It's bad enough that we don't even really go into that town (Cold Spring - the trailhead is just on the edge of town) during the summer because there are far too many people either going to Breakneck or coming up from the city to visit the "quaint little country town."

    People.Ruin.Everything.
     
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    I guess one of the good things about being isolated and having a small population that you can get out of the Perth City area and head north and east a couple of hours and see very few people.

    South is busy because of the wineries, surf beaches and tall trees.

    If you have the time and the inclination you can go thousands of kms to the north of Western Australia and not see anyone sometime for days.



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    I could rant on this topic all day. I'll just include one good anecdote.

    I was in Yosemite a couple years ago and went to check out the big waterfall in the valley. It was unbelievably crowded and the scene was as far from appreciation of natural beauty as you can get. There were hundreds of people all crammed into the water and making noise and splashing around. I thought this is such a ridiculous scene, I'm going to take a video of it to show just how crowded and crappy our national parks have become. So I started to shoot the video and about half way through the sweep, an international visitor stepped right in front of me and my camera and blocked my shot, totally oblivious to not only his surroundings, but also just how ridiculous the whole scene was. The irony was not lost on me, believe that.

    In general, I believe humans evolved as a way for nature to experience itself. We come from the earth, are comprised of its elements and return to it when we die, but somehow we think we are separate. We think nature is here for us to enjoy, not realizing it's the other way around. As with most things human, we have even failed at doing what we were created to do: experience nature.
     
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    I can agree with above post, camping and later sailing gave me some wonderful treats of nature
    Like seeing the wake behind my boat glow on a moonless night
     
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    There was a news story here locally about a Zebra that bit 4 people. Come to find out, the Zebra is on a large private farm which is fenced in. The 4 people that were bit had crossed the fence in order to get a selfie with the Zebra. Now, who is to blame: The owner of the Zebra or the 4 people trespassing on the farm?
     
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    My first thought is the people trespassing, but local laws can vary, such as if, and how the property is posted. Being a farm, I'm guessing there may not be that many laws.

    As far as the original topic, yes, we humans tend to ruin a lot of things. Take a walk along any number of rivers and ponds and you'll see where "slobs" have been fishing, and have left trash (empty bait containers, cans, bottle, discarded plastic fishing line) strewn around.
     
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    Jump into a crocodile pond, expect to get eaten
     
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    The trespassers. No doubt in my mind.
     
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