Artistic Nudity discussion?

gsgary

Been spending a lot of time on here!
Joined
Oct 31, 2008
Messages
16,143
Reaction score
2,978
Location
Chesterfield UK
Website
www.gsgary.smugmug.com
Can others edit my Photos
Photos OK to edit

mwcfarms

No longer a newbie, moving up!
Joined
Mar 16, 2010
Messages
2,655
Reaction score
179
Location
Southern Alberta
Website
www.deannachambers.com
Can others edit my Photos
Photos OK to edit
I don't think I have seen any porn so far. Sorry even the flickr pics were more erotica than pornography in my mind. I even read the essay so I can't say the eye of the beholder because I guess its an unacceptable reasoning. I think this is one of those things that is well enough let alone. You know in your own mind what is acceptable and what isn't. I leave you with your beliefs and I take no shame in my own.
 

Garbz

No longer a newbie, moving up!
Joined
Oct 26, 2003
Messages
9,713
Reaction score
203
Location
Brisbane, Australia
Website
www.auer.garbz.com
Can others edit my Photos
Photos NOT OK to edit
I find this thread incredibly interesting. On the one side mwcfarms says he hasn't seen any porn so far, I would agree with him. A spread vagina does not constitute porn in my opinion.

That said the intent to arouse discussion is also interesting because I think that's the legal definition in some countries. I remember reading a case a while ago about child pornography, in this case the subject being clothed (barely) but sitting spreadeagled infront of the camera. At the time it was ruled as being child pornography due to it's focus point being the vaginal area.

So who's intent to arouse do we follow? It's the viewer's digression as to what the subject is they are looking at so it's not fair to go to the photographer and ask them "was your intent to make me get wood?"

To that extent is this here porn? (safe for work just a photo of hands) Love Bondage | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
I think most reasonable people would say no, and my intent in making this picture was definitely not to get a rise out of people who see it. That said I know someone from a fetish forum who would get instant arousal even if those latex gloves weren't arm length.

If the criteria for porn is arousal then no photo is safe. Somewhere someone considers that photo you just took of an innocent landscape **** material.
 

boudoirsalon

TPF Noob!
Joined
Jan 19, 2011
Messages
3
Reaction score
0
Location
sydney
Can others edit my Photos
Photos OK to edit
:sexywink: To capture the sensual, artistic nude, yes this is me, french female photographer... Dont ask me to get an intellectual advice on this matter.
Images talk themselves, just words can kill them.
I'd like to convince everyone to go beyond his comfort zone.
exploring the female forms is the best subject in photography.
You create your own boundaries, or your model conduct how she wants to appear through your lens.
YES. Get a chance when you come to Sydney to join one of my workshop as an experience, a real revelation . You'll think great i have got a fantastic lens or i have got a true talent.
Voila.. to give you an idea check this and my events calendar. go to boudoirsalon.com
Marie
 

Higgs Boson

TPF Noob!
Joined
Nov 27, 2009
Messages
116
Reaction score
1
Location
Texas
Can others edit my Photos
Photos OK to edit
Yes, I agree. The problem is an abundant supply of female form around here.....They are all the form of apples and pears, not females.... :-(

A picture is worth a thousand words, but how many words does it take to describe a picture?
 

dnurv

TPF Noob!
Joined
Jan 7, 2011
Messages
2
Reaction score
0
one of my favorite quotes from an unattributed source...

"what's the difference between art and porn?....the lighting"
 

Kyna

TPF Noob!
Joined
Jan 7, 2011
Messages
175
Reaction score
5
Location
Shell Lake, WI
Can others edit my Photos
Photos OK to edit
A big question I have after reading all of these.........is if it is everyone's interpretation is there really a difference? Does it have to be labeled porn or art? Who cares? You don't HAVE to look at it if you don't want to and if you look at an "artsy" picture with the intent to get aroused go for it........if you look at a porno and view it artisticly cool!
 

boudoirsalon

TPF Noob!
Joined
Jan 19, 2011
Messages
3
Reaction score
0
Location
sydney
Can others edit my Photos
Photos OK to edit
I am a french photographer holding sensual workshops in my Bondi studios.

Dont ask me to get an intellectual advice on this matter.
Images talk themselves, just words can kill them.
I'd like to convince everyone to go beyond his comfort zone.
exploring the female forms is the best subject in photography.
You create your own boundaries, or your model conduct how she wants to appear through your lens.
YES. Get a chance when you come to Sydney to join one of my workshop as an experience, a real revelation . You'll think great i have got a fantastic lens or i have got a true talent.
Voila.. to give you an idea if you are curious my website is called "boudoirsalon"
Marie
 

RockDawg

TPF Noob!
Joined
Mar 29, 2007
Messages
156
Reaction score
0
Location
NE Ohio
Can others edit my Photos
Photos OK to edit
This is SOOO true. I am always amazed at how often the "open-minded" don't have an open mind when it comes to "closed or narrow-minded" people's point of view. Oh sure, they have an open-mind when it comes to what other people should tolerate or accept, but shouldn't they, by virtue of their own beliefs, tolerate or accept other's so-called limited views?

As for the porn versus art topic, I'm generally among the more narrow-minded of view points. To me, most nudity that involves genitalia is more pornographic than art (with the exception of things like nude baby pictures). My thinking is that it is, by definition, sexual in nature. I know MANY people disagree and that's cool. We all have out own beliefs.

Hmm...so how is it that a picture of a nude baby is considered art, but a picture of a nude adult is porn?

Better watch out..or the prudes above will crucify you for mentioning the word baby and nude in the same post

Obviously not, which would seem to indicate we aren't as narrow-minded as you. While we may be more judgmental than you when it comes to porn, we are obviously less judgmental than you when it comes to people.

... LMFAO at some of the views here of these midwesterners who want to label anything they do not like as "porn". Totally fricking hilariously narrow-minded.

What is hilarious is your hypocrisy. You mention "midwesterners". Why? You wouldn't be stereotyping would you? Isn't stereotyping considered narrow-minded? Just because I have a different view or belief than you I deserve to be scoffed at? Again, I wonder how you can go around calling people narrow-minded when you aren't even open-minded enough to accept that people may have views different from you.

I also find it ironic that, in this controversial discussion that has been otherwise handled with class by everyone else involved, it is your "open-minded" posts that have brought negativity, condescension and acrimony. Thank you for your contribution.
 

Garbz

No longer a newbie, moving up!
Joined
Oct 26, 2003
Messages
9,713
Reaction score
203
Location
Brisbane, Australia
Website
www.auer.garbz.com
Can others edit my Photos
Photos NOT OK to edit
A big question I have after reading all of these.........is if it is everyone's interpretation is there really a difference? Does it have to be labeled porn or art? Who cares? You don't HAVE to look at it if you don't want to and if you look at an "artsy" picture with the intent to get aroused go for it........if you look at a porno and view it artisticly cool!

Unfortunately the people who care are the ones who often make your life a living hell. I mean it's all good for us to say e.g. that Bill Henson's pictures is in the eye of the beholder and it doesn't matter, but that didn't stop the police from raiding an exhibition of his and needing to defend a child pornography charge.


What I find absolutely disgusting is the way we have morally destroyed the idea of the human body in our minds through the media. I mean there were limbs flying in every direction in Perl Harbor and blood and gore and terrible death throughout and it gets rated PG-13, a decaying thing crawls out of the TV in The Ring capable of giving grown men nightmares it also gets a PG rating, Nicole Kidman whips her boobs out in eyes-wide shut and it gets rated R.
 

Kyna

TPF Noob!
Joined
Jan 7, 2011
Messages
175
Reaction score
5
Location
Shell Lake, WI
Can others edit my Photos
Photos OK to edit
Yeah tv sensorship and ratings are a whole nother topic! :) Sensorship BLA!
 

Most reactions

ClickASnap

New Topics

Top