Can you tell this photo is real of Photoshoped?

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I saw this photo online. Do you think it's possible to take a photo of the galaxy on a plane? Or have you done it ? I seriously doubt it's real. The author claimed it was real though.
 
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It's 'shopped.

BTW: Posting images that you don't have rights to is a TOS violation here............jez sayin'.
 

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It's 'shopped. BTW: Posting images that you don't have rights to is a TOS violation here............jez sayin'.

Why?


Why what? That I think it's 'shopped? Too much difference in the dynamic range of the components. I'd say it's a composite image.

That you can't post photos you don't have rights to? It's in the TOS you agreed to (but probably didn't actually read) when you signed up.
 
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The photo has the authors signature and I claimed it's not mine. I use it just for reference purpose. I would argue if this violates any rules.
 

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........... I would argue if this violates any rules.

You can argue 'till you're blue. I'm sure one of the mods will be along soon.

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It's the forums' rule, not mine.
 

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The photo has the authors signature and I claimed it's not mine. I use it just for reference purpose. I would argue if this violates any rules.

This is a simple, clear composite image. This is a simple, clear violation of TPF rules against posting works which you do not hold copyright to, or have express, written permission to use.
 

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The photo has the authors signature and I claimed it's not mine. I use it just for reference purpose. I would argue if this violates any rules.
Those notions are very common internet urban legends.

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Just post a link to the image.
 

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What about this photo? Shopped? Or legit?

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Just post a link to the image.
The picture is displayed in a Chinese social website needs account to log in to view. So I would not bother you guys here to post the link here as it would require you to read Chinese and make an account. I will see whether I can add the link in other way later.

The photographer said he took it using Nikon D4 with 12-24mm, at F2.8, ISO 128000, 4 seconds.

Seriously, you guys just say it's Photoshopped but have not given me a really good reason for me to believe in, even though I strongly suspect it's Photoshopped too. I would argue it's Photoshopped because if he needed such exposure to photograph the galaxy, I doubt he would see it in the first place. But this is just my opinion. I do not have experience of photography's my galaxy.
 

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A few thoughts;

1) Night photos of the stars to the depth displayed in the photo requires a lot of light. Thus wide aperture - long exposures and high ISO - typically into the extremes. Often this kind of photo is taken with a tripod and a long exposure (so the ISO can be kept low thus less noise) and a mount on the tripod that turns the camera so that it keeps up with the spin of the Earth (otherwise you get startrails).

2) I would expect to see some blurring of the stars at 4seconds, esp when taken from a moving platform (plane) - although the size shown is small so that might be hiding many problematic elements.

3) With an ISO and exposure time as suggested I would have expected the plane to have blown out very easily if there was any normal light upon it.


The shot could be real, but from what I recall of the linked image it looks a touch too "perfect" in the sky. The shot could be a real composite where by the sky and plane shots were combined in editing; both being real photos, but taken under different settings (and for the sky shot maybe even a different location).

Personally I've never seen a clear galaxy star shot like that from a plane window or indeed any moving vehicle. It could be possible (anything can be) but its looking like its either a composite or resizing/editing is hiding a lot of imperfections.
 

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If bumping my tripod even the slightest bit during a 30 second exposure at night screws up my photo, there is no way you could get a sharp photo of the stars going hundreds of miles an hour in a plane
 

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