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Hello,

I'm deeply interested in learning photography, which is why I decided to join this forum. While I've taken many pictures, I have a lot to learn and there is still plenty that I don't understand. I've procured some books to broaden my understanding, but I'm finding the learning curve to be somewhat steep. Concepts like exposure and a camera's many components continue to puzzle me, but I'm hoping that by becoming a member of this forum, I will be rewarded with a heightened knowledge of the ins and the outs of photography.

I am currently using a Canon Rebel T3I.

- Walrus
 
Hello,

I'm deeply interested in learning photography, which is why I decided to join this forum. While I've taken many pictures, I have a lot to learn and there is still plenty that I don't understand. I've procured some books to broaden my understanding, but I'm finding the learning curve to be somewhat steep. Concepts like exposure and a camera's many components continue to puzzle me, but I'm hoping that by becoming a member of this forum, I will be rewarded with a heightened knowledge of the ins and the outs of photography.

I am currently using a Canon Rebel T3I.

- Walrus

Ok, well exposure isn't really bad once you get the hang of it. Exposure is all about light. You want to let enough light in so that the sensor can create a proper image. The three components of exposure are Aperture, Shutter Speed and ISO.

So we'll start with Aperture. This is a measure of how wide an your lens can open. The wider the lens opens, the more light it lets in. The lower the F number, the wider the lens will open. I know that seems backwards at first, but F numbers are actually fractions, so the lower the number, the wider the lens will open to let in more light. The upside to a wide aperture is it lets in more light, which allows you to reduce ISO or increase shutter speed using the same available light as a more narrow aperture would allow you to use. The downside is that when you increase the aperture (lower the F number) you get a narrower depth of field and it's something you need to be aware of when increasing the aperture. There are times when a narrower DOF can come in handy, I'll cover that a bit later.

The second component to exposure is shutter speed. The slower your shutter speed the longer the shutter stays open, so the more light that reaches the sensor. So by using lower shutter speeds you can take pictures with less light than what a higher shutter speed can capture and still get a proper exposure. The downside to slower shutter speeds is blur - both motion blur and camera shake. If your subject is moving and the shutter speed isn't high enough the end result will be motion blur. Also when you hand hold a camera your not a stable platform. If the shutter speed is low enough this movement of the camera as you hold it can result in "camera shake" which will also give you blur. You can compensate for camera shake using a tripod or monopod, and a lot of newer cameras have some form of image stabilization available, some are built into the camera body and some are built into the lens, but both attempt to do the same thing and that is compensate for camera shake.

The last component of exposure is ISO - the higher you set the ISO the more senstive the cameras sensor becomes to the incoming light. This allows you to shoot with narrower apertures or faster shutter speeds when the lighting isn't that great. The downside is when you increase your ISO you also start introducing noise into the image, and the dynamic range starts to be affected so the colors don't "pop" quite as much.

So the trick is to balance these three in such a way that you get the best results for the kind of image you want. Increase the aperture and you can decrease the ISO or increase the shutter speed or maybe a little of both. Decrease the aperture and you might need to decrease your shutter speed or increase your ISO to compensate.

If your shooting a cityscape at night for example, your target isn't really moving so you don't need to worry about motion blur. So you mount your camera on a tripod and use a very long shutter speed so you can keep your aperture low and your ISO low and get the best shot.

If your shooting sports or a moving target like wildlife you want to keep your shutter speed high to avoid motion blur, so as a result you'll need a wider aperture or a higher ISO or a combination of both to keep your shutter speed high.

That's pretty much the very basics of exposure, I'm sure others can add a lot more detail but I think that pretty much covers the basic concept at least. If you want my recommendation, try shooting in Aperture Priority mode (AV on your dial). Experiment by adjusting your aperture and see how the camera starts changing the ISO and shutter speed to compensate.

Ok, now real quick on depth of field. When your camera focuses on the target whether your letting the camera choose a point to focus on or your choosing it yourself that becomes your point of focus. Everything on the same horizontal plane of that point will be in focus. As you start moving away from that horizontal plane, things will start to become more and more out of focus.

Aperture affects this depth of field. The wider your aperture the faster objects not on the same horizontal plane will become out of focus. As you increase the F number you increase the distance an object can be from that focus point and still be in sharp focus. There are other factors that affect this depth of field, such as your distance from the focal point, the focal length of the lens, and of course the aperture it's set too. There are a lot of depth of field calculators out there you can use to get a good grasp on how these things affect your depth of field, and of course this is something else I recommend you practice for yourself so you can see the real world results of how these things all fit together.

Ok, that's the quick and dirty version at any rate, hopefully that helps.
 
Listen to robbins he's a great guy and great photographer as is many of the people here i'm still a noob and they help me out a lot .If have any questions just ask .As for me the only other advice I can give is practice we are lucky once you have the camera and at least one lens its cheap to take the pictures compare to the days of film. So go out and enjoy yourself .And welcome to the forum.:)
 
Welcome, Walrus! Yes, it does seem daunting I agree. Try not to let it overwhelm you. Jus take it one step at a time. Don't think you need to master each step in turn, either, just do it at your own pace, otherwise it will cease to be fun.

Please do ask questions. Start a new thread for each question. Try to be as specific as you can. If the question is integral to a photograph, post the photograph. Have fun!
 
Thank you so much for the warm welcome, everyone!

Robbins, thank you so much for the in-depth response. Reading it over, I'm still unclear on how that information applies to the practical side of things, but I'm sure that's something that will become clearer when more experience is garnered. Nonetheless, I will put your help to good use.

Because I've come into some money, I'm looking into purchasing a lens or two for my T3I. I'll be posting an inquiry on this forum concerning which would best suit my budget, needs, etc.

Again, thanks for the hospitality everyone!
 
Thank you so much for the warm welcome, everyone!

Robbins, thank you so much for the in-depth response. Reading it over, I'm still unclear on how that information applies to the practical side of things, but I'm sure that's something that will become clearer when more experience is garnered. Nonetheless, I will put your help to good use.

No problem, as it turns out I've got a couple of shots I took today that will probably help illustrate in a real world situation. These were shot indoors in a very dimly lit aquarium, so not a lot of available light to work with which means some compromises need to be made. These were shot with my Nikon D5200 using a 50 mm F/1.8 lens.

The first shot is a good illustration of what depth of field does and the affect aperture has on DOF:


20140321 1042 by robbins.photo, on Flickr

I picked the fishes left eye as my point of focus. In this case because of the very low light I have the aperture wide open at 1.8, allowing the lens to pass the maximum amount of light to the sensor. This allows me to keep the ISO lower - in this case 720, which prevents the image from getting very noisy. It also allows me to keep my shutter speed high, in this case 1/640, so that I can stop the motion and prevent the image from being blurry even though this is a small, fast moving fish.

So I focus on the fishes eye - and notice how the things that are on the same horizontal plane as the point where I focused are in sharp focus. But as you start moving to things that are closer - like the fishes lower lip, or further away, like the tail, they become blurrier. The background itself is also extremely blurry, because it is further away from my point of focus than the other elements in the picture. Now, I could bring some of these elements into sharper focus by either "stopping" down the lens, or increasing the F-number and decreasing the amount of light coming into the lens. I could also increase my depth of field by stepping back away from the fish so that I'm further away from my focus point, which would also increase my depth of field. But I liked the effect on this shot so I kept it.

Ok, here is shot #2. Same fish:


20140321 1040 by robbins.photo, on Flickr

You'll notice that in this case the tail seems a little sharper - this is because it's closer to the same horizontal plane as my focus point, again the fishes eye. The fish is turned so that his tail isn't as far away from the focus point as it was before, so now it's sharper than it is in the other photograph even though I'm using the same aperture and the fish is pretty much the same distance away from the camera.
 
Hello and welcome to the forum!
 
Yes, WELCOME to TPF! We need new people all the time...the old ones keep getting better, and wandering off...

Books are a wonderful source of knoiwledge. I still suggest the many John Hedgecoe photography books because they break all aspects of photography down, into small, manageable mini-lessons, with lots of small drawings, illustrations, and example photos. This allows you to leaf through a book (he wrote about 30 of them!) and pick out a "lesson". Imagine shooting silhouettes for a morning and then in the evening (difficult, but not impossible to do them during the mid-day hours!), then in the evening going out and shooting some night-time time exposures. It's a great way to learn.
 
Welcome to the site.
 
Thank you so much for the warm welcome, everyone!

Robbins, thank you so much for the in-depth response. Reading it over, I'm still unclear on how that information applies to the practical side of things, but I'm sure that's something that will become clearer when more experience is garnered. Nonetheless, I will put your help to good use.

No problem, as it turns out I've got a couple of shots I took today that will probably help illustrate in a real world situation. These were shot indoors in a very dimly lit aquarium, so not a lot of available light to work with which means some compromises need to be made. These were shot with my Nikon D5200 using a 50 mm F/1.8 lens.

The first shot is a good illustration of what depth of field does and the affect aperture has on DOF:


20140321 1042 by robbins.photo, on Flickr

I picked the fishes left eye as my point of focus. In this case because of the very low light I have the aperture wide open at 1.8, allowing the lens to pass the maximum amount of light to the sensor. This allows me to keep the ISO lower - in this case 720, which prevents the image from getting very noisy. It also allows me to keep my shutter speed high, in this case 1/640, so that I can stop the motion and prevent the image from being blurry even though this is a small, fast moving fish.

So I focus on the fishes eye - and notice how the things that are on the same horizontal plane as the point where I focused are in sharp focus. But as you start moving to things that are closer - like the fishes lower lip, or further away, like the tail, they become blurrier. The background itself is also extremely blurry, because it is further away from my point of focus than the other elements in the picture. Now, I could bring some of these elements into sharper focus by either "stopping" down the lens, or increasing the F-number and decreasing the amount of light coming into the lens. I could also increase my depth of field by stepping back away from the fish so that I'm further away from my focus point, which would also increase my depth of field. But I liked the effect on this shot so I kept it.

Ok, here is shot #2. Same fish:


20140321 1040 by robbins.photo, on Flickr

You'll notice that in this case the tail seems a little sharper - this is because it's closer to the same horizontal plane as my focus point, again the fishes eye. The fish is turned so that his tail isn't as far away from the focus point as it was before, so now it's sharper than it is in the other photograph even though I'm using the same aperture and the fish is pretty much the same distance away from the camera.

Gorgeous photos! That is what I'm most interested in: animal photography. I'm looking for a lens/camera combination that will enable me to take some nice animal pictures (birds especially). I created a thread regarding this, and I'll be posting my most recent development with concern to this objective. Anyway, thank you again for your educated, thorough reply. While I'm still having difficulty putting the pieces together, I know that I'll connect the dots very soon.

Yes, WELCOME to TPF! We need new people all the time...the old ones keep getting better, and wandering off...

Books are a wonderful source of knoiwledge. I still suggest the many John Hedgecoe photography books because they break all aspects of photography down, into small, manageable mini-lessons, with lots of small drawings, illustrations, and example photos. This allows you to leaf through a book (he wrote about 30 of them!) and pick out a "lesson". Imagine shooting silhouettes for a morning and then in the evening (difficult, but not impossible to do them during the mid-day hours!), then in the evening going out and shooting some night-time time exposures. It's a great way to learn.

Thanks for the recommendations! I'll surely be looking into these books in my efforts to grasp the technical aspects of photography.

Thank you for the warm regards, everyone!
 

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