Lanimilbus
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I just bought a Vivitar DF200 digital flash (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/con...=08-2429110-2&sku=293955&srccode=cii_13736960) for my Panasonic Lumix FZ20, because my old external flash, a Quantaray QB-350A (http://www.ritzcamera.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&productId=30239) exploded after I put new batteries in it, and is now toast. I bought the new Vivitar DF200 flash from B&H Photo online last Friday for $75.00 and paid an extra $10 in shipping to get it here in time, as I need a new, functional, external flash for my camera for a concert this Saturday, the 19th.
I just got it today, took it out of the box, read the instruction manual, put batteries in it, attached it to the hot shoe mount on the top of my camera, turned it on, turned the camera on, made sure the camera had all of the external flash settings correct, and took a picture. The flash didnt go off. I tried about 40 more pictures, the flash never went off. I read the instructions again, and it said to attach the camera to the bracket which is a long piece of metal that came with the flash (it can be seen in the picture in the link above to the DF200 flash), that has a sliding screw and a flash mount on it, then to attach the flash to the mount on the other end of the bracket, and to take a few pictures with the digital camera with the built in flash on, so that the DF200 flash can learn how it goes, and to synchronize with it. So I did that, and this time both flashes went off. I thought that now that it had learned how to synchronize with the digital camera that I could put it back on top of the camera on the hot shoe mount, and take another picture with the camera and the DF200 flash would go off. Wrong. I slid it back into the hot shoe mount on top of the camera, turned it on, and still nothing.
Does this mean the flash can only function when its not attached to the camera? I.e. holding the flash separate in your hand away from the camera, having the cameras built-in flash on, taking a picture with the camera, having the built-in flash go off, and then the separate flash in your hand mimic it? Is that the only way it operates? I definitely did not buy the flash under the impression that it would operate that way, especially since the description said that it was compatible with all digital cameras.
The problem I have with it working that way is that at concerts, specifically the kind that Ill be at this Saturday, Im going to be close to the bands performing, and with the Lumix FZ20s built-in flash on, every single picture comes out either completely washed out, with red-eye, and/or full of dust specks that that flash captures in the air. So even if the other flash is working and can be angled upwards as to not be so direct when the band is so close and wash everything out/catch all the specks of dust in the air, it doesnt do me any good because the built-in flash still has to go off for the other one to go off as well, which means the pictures will STILL be washed out, with red eye, and/or full of dust. So; is there any way for me to use this DF200 flash on top of my digital camera in replace of the built-in one, like my original Quantaray QB-350A did? Or do I need to return this one and buy another external flash tonight and get it overnight mailed here in time for the concert this Saturday? I really hope the latter is not the case, as that would cost me something like $40.00 in shipping to get another flash overnight, plus the flash will most certainly be more expensive than the DF200, I cant get my money back for the shipping I paid for the DF200, and itll cost me another $10.00 in shipping to send the DF200 back to B&H photo, at which point it will take 6-8 business days for them to refund my money, which will be $35 less than what I had to pay for it, with the subtraction in shipping and the restocking fee.
But, I have a sinking feeling that that the latter IS the case. So, if that is the case and theres no possible way for me to use the DF200 flash without the built-in going off, I need to order another external flash tonight but what I do NOT want to have happen is to get another flash on Friday that I paid an obscene amount of money for and have it be the same as this one, only able to operate outside of the camera, when the built-in flash goes off. So, my question to someone here more wise than I is this; how can I tell if another flash I order is like this one, or if it will work in REPLACEMENT of the built-in flash, by going into the hotshoe mount on top of my camera, like my old Quantaray? Is there some specific term used for those kinds of flashes that I can look for? Is there some specific term used for the kind that the DF200 is, that will only work in addition to the built-in flash, that I can watch out for? Its all very frustrating, and if someone could help me along in any way by making this any clearer for me, it would be greatly appreciated.
Its also pretty important that I get a quicker reply rather than a later one, since I need to know which kind of flash to buy by the end of the night at the latest. Thanks in advance,
-Alec
I just got it today, took it out of the box, read the instruction manual, put batteries in it, attached it to the hot shoe mount on the top of my camera, turned it on, turned the camera on, made sure the camera had all of the external flash settings correct, and took a picture. The flash didnt go off. I tried about 40 more pictures, the flash never went off. I read the instructions again, and it said to attach the camera to the bracket which is a long piece of metal that came with the flash (it can be seen in the picture in the link above to the DF200 flash), that has a sliding screw and a flash mount on it, then to attach the flash to the mount on the other end of the bracket, and to take a few pictures with the digital camera with the built in flash on, so that the DF200 flash can learn how it goes, and to synchronize with it. So I did that, and this time both flashes went off. I thought that now that it had learned how to synchronize with the digital camera that I could put it back on top of the camera on the hot shoe mount, and take another picture with the camera and the DF200 flash would go off. Wrong. I slid it back into the hot shoe mount on top of the camera, turned it on, and still nothing.
Does this mean the flash can only function when its not attached to the camera? I.e. holding the flash separate in your hand away from the camera, having the cameras built-in flash on, taking a picture with the camera, having the built-in flash go off, and then the separate flash in your hand mimic it? Is that the only way it operates? I definitely did not buy the flash under the impression that it would operate that way, especially since the description said that it was compatible with all digital cameras.
The problem I have with it working that way is that at concerts, specifically the kind that Ill be at this Saturday, Im going to be close to the bands performing, and with the Lumix FZ20s built-in flash on, every single picture comes out either completely washed out, with red-eye, and/or full of dust specks that that flash captures in the air. So even if the other flash is working and can be angled upwards as to not be so direct when the band is so close and wash everything out/catch all the specks of dust in the air, it doesnt do me any good because the built-in flash still has to go off for the other one to go off as well, which means the pictures will STILL be washed out, with red eye, and/or full of dust. So; is there any way for me to use this DF200 flash on top of my digital camera in replace of the built-in one, like my original Quantaray QB-350A did? Or do I need to return this one and buy another external flash tonight and get it overnight mailed here in time for the concert this Saturday? I really hope the latter is not the case, as that would cost me something like $40.00 in shipping to get another flash overnight, plus the flash will most certainly be more expensive than the DF200, I cant get my money back for the shipping I paid for the DF200, and itll cost me another $10.00 in shipping to send the DF200 back to B&H photo, at which point it will take 6-8 business days for them to refund my money, which will be $35 less than what I had to pay for it, with the subtraction in shipping and the restocking fee.
But, I have a sinking feeling that that the latter IS the case. So, if that is the case and theres no possible way for me to use the DF200 flash without the built-in going off, I need to order another external flash tonight but what I do NOT want to have happen is to get another flash on Friday that I paid an obscene amount of money for and have it be the same as this one, only able to operate outside of the camera, when the built-in flash goes off. So, my question to someone here more wise than I is this; how can I tell if another flash I order is like this one, or if it will work in REPLACEMENT of the built-in flash, by going into the hotshoe mount on top of my camera, like my old Quantaray? Is there some specific term used for those kinds of flashes that I can look for? Is there some specific term used for the kind that the DF200 is, that will only work in addition to the built-in flash, that I can watch out for? Its all very frustrating, and if someone could help me along in any way by making this any clearer for me, it would be greatly appreciated.
Its also pretty important that I get a quicker reply rather than a later one, since I need to know which kind of flash to buy by the end of the night at the latest. Thanks in advance,
-Alec