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Excellent..... Now that I have all the perverts like my self gathered neatly in one place.....

Nude photography and pornography are different, We all know this, we all can tell at first glance for the most part. I would like to start a discussion on the touchy subject of what makes porn, porn and nude photography art.


Pornography is the representation of the human body and/or sexual activity and is often rather explicit, but this is not always the case. Nude photography is representation of the human anatomy and sexuality with high-art aspirations and is generally rather tame, however this too is not always the case.

So How is it that two forms of imagery that are by definition so similar be so different? What are the determining factors?

Please, by all means share any and all opinions and knowledge you may have.


*EDIT* For all the mod staff who receive reports from "report first read later users" I give my formal apology.
 

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damn you and your promises of free porn!!!

I was about to bin this thread then noticed your name as the poster :lol:
 
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damn you and your promises of free porn!!!

I was about to bin this thread then noticed your name as the poster :lol:

As you prolly alredy noticed a wave of spam has started too just prior to the thread, I my self reported two tonight alredy. I did this to drive up the view count in an effort to get a wider range of posters and their thoughts and opinions.
 

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yeah I noticed, and cheers for the reports. keep this to yourself but when I ban a spammer I generally have a big grin on me chops when I hit that magic button :lol:

I don't really have anything to add to this topic as I'm shoot wildlife more than anything and they are always naked!

Bob Carlos Clarke has nothing on me :lol:
 
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yeah I noticed, and cheers for the reports. keep this to yourself but when I ban a spammer I generally have a big grin on me chops when I hit that magic button :lol:

I don't really have anything to add to this topic as I'm shoot wildlife more than anything and they are always naked!

Bob Carlos Clarke has nothing on me :lol:

PM inbound pertaining to my actual stance on reports, but back on to the topic.

I am one of the staff who decides wether or not artwork is permissable on Fan-Art Central, on this site we permit nude art works but not Hentai (or pornographic drawings/illustrations), this neverending debate as to what is porn and what is art has created a major grey aria in our policy and it's enforcement as well as an uncertanty in wether or not we are going to accept nude photography on PL partly due to fear of loosing sponcers. With the bulk of pornographic works being photographic, I figure I have better chance of solid discusson asking the question to a forum for photography as the one on drawing site went nowhere fast.
 

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I must say I can not give a cookie cutter answer. When I see a a nude art it gives me a feel beauty and form. I spend time thinking about the lighting and the thought behind he image. Porn however is just an image.
 

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This is a topic where as many photographers that answer, thats how many opinions you can get.

I am somewhat old fasioned. For me, I think the line comes when exposing the genetalia. This is not art. One can have beautiful nude photographs, but it doesn't have to be explicit or overly obvious.

The better nudes elicit thoughts of lighting, strong positive emotion, character. Porn elicts in me the desire to dry heave, then move on.
 

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Hahahah I was too going to gloss over this but then I thought hangon Battou is common here isn't he?

Anyway a one sided relation ship is that x rated photos (photos showing actually sexual acts) are Porn. No they won't be art even in the wildest stretch.

R rated photos on the other hand (not showing actual sexual acts but instead just depicting the naked form) can be both. I guess the true art comes down to the same thoughts of snapshot vs proper model shots which also pay attention to some creative expansion of the "art" rather than just throwing a bunch of umbrellas and softboxes at a naked person. At the risk of sounding like a deviate myself: http://www.met-art.com/ (Definitely not safe for work!!!!!) is a fine example of art. When I see those photos the first thought is still related to the model, but you can't help but admire careful poses well thought out lighting and some wonderful camera work.
 

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I am very disappointed now ...
 

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For me its a simple, and you never really have to think is it this or is it that. On first impression does Beauty come to mind or Lust. I think if the photo conveys the beauty or sensuality then its art. If it encites lust then its pornography. Now that said people see things differently, generations see things differently. You may have a hundred people look at the same photo and fifty think its and fifty think its pornography. And using my own beauty/lust judgements, there are people who think porn is beautiful.

The writer of this post pleads the rights of the fifth ammendment when it comes to his personal opinion of pornography.
 

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For me its a simple, and you never really have to think is it this or is it that. On first impression does Beauty come to mind or Lust. I think if the photo conveys the beauty or sensuality then its art. If it encites lust then its pornography. Now that said people see things differently, generations see things differently. You may have a hundred people look at the same photo and fifty think its and fifty think its pornography. And using my own beauty/lust judgements, there are people who think porn is beautiful.

The writer of this post pleads the rights of the fifth ammendment when it comes to his personal opinion of pornography.

But often, both beauty and lust come to my mind. And since both feelings are quite different in nature, you cannot really compare them or weight them and say it is more of one than of the other. So with this definition at least I personally would be stuck.


In my own personal small world, I am very pragmatic with the definition
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Pornography for me starts, when the image either explicitly depicts sexual activity, or depicts human bodies (or parts of them) which are apparently sexually aroused.

If the image does not show it explicitly, but implies it or hides what is apparently there, then I call it pornish (not to be confused with Cornish which refers to a small stretch of land in the South West of England ;))

Under my definition I would even go further and distinguish between artsy pornography (extremly rare, hardly does exist at all) and "cheap" pornography (the vast majority). But this will be highly disputed by others ;)
 

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to me there is only one kind of porn

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If it gets you hard then it's porn. Simple as that. :D

Edit: lostprophet those lenses suck ass lol! I have them all!
 

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