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[Hertz van Rental]

Nude photography and pornography are different

This is a fallacy.
There is no difference at all - all are photography and should be seen as such.
Where the difference - and distinction - lies is in the mind of the viewer.
Pornography is a consensus of opinion in Society. Different Societies have different definitions of what constitutes pornography.
Personally, I judge pictures on their merits, not on their content.
I find the work of Elmer Batters (Not Work Safe if you Google) to be witty and fun even though it was considered verging on pornography at the time.
I'm still making up my mind about Andres Serrano (definitely Not Work Safe! Do not go hunting for him if you are easily shocked or offended). He is trying to make what would normally be called pornography into what can only be called Art. He certainly challenges Social norms and pre-conceived notions - he blurs the boundaries.

 

[monkeykoder]

To me art comes into the picture when what you portray is more than what most people would see. If I see a picture of a naked woman and I feel something other than a desire for that woman be it sadness or happiness or disgust (at something beyond the face value of the situation) I consider that art if all I see in the picture is the objects in the picture it isn't art no matter what it is of and how well it is composed.

 

[Alpha]

Perhaps this goes without saying to anyone familiar with his work, but one need only look at Mappelthorpe's more notorious nudes to understand that "pornography" can be art.

 

[Hertz van Rental]

one need only look at Mappelthorpe's more notorious nudes to understand that "pornography" can be art.

I have two copies of one of his books. One published in the UK, one in France. Identical except that the UK version has five images removed 'on the advice of the DPP'.

 

[Alex_B]

I have two copies of one of his books. One published in the UK, one in France. Identical except that the UK version has five images removed 'on the advice of the DPP'.

At one point in my life, that was my job ... removing porn images/censorship :lmao:

 

[fido dog]

In MY mind...........

A) Nude Art.
B) Erotica.
C) Good 'Ol Porn.....Triple X Stuff.:hail:

I think it's very personal to each person and each situation. There is a difference between a well lit and artisticly shot photograph and a donkey jack hammering Jenna Jameson in the back nine.

I've always thought that if you can't show it to your mom....it's porn.

 

[fido dog]

At one point in my life, that was my job ... removing porn images/censorship :lmao:

Commie!!

 

[JIP]

This is a fallacy.
There is no difference at all - all are photography and should be seen as such.
Where the difference - and distinction - lies is in the mind of the viewer.
Pornography is a consensus of opinion in Society. Different Societies have different definitions of what constitutes pornography.
Personally, I judge pictures on their merits, not on their content.
I find the work of Elmer Batters (Not Work Safe if you Google) to be witty and fun even though it was considered verging on pornography at the time.
I'm still making up my mind about Andres Serrano (definitely Not Work Safe! Do not go hunting for him if you are easily shocked or offended). He is trying to make what would normally be called pornography into what can only be called Art. He certainly challenges Social norms and pre-conceived notions - he blurs the boundaries.

I don't want to interject somerhing new here but I did a fearch on Serrano http://www.artnet.com/usernet/awc/a...202827&gid=424202827&works_of_art=1&cid=74183 and WOW!! if you can get past some of the more offensive stuff (and that is in the eye of the beholder) the "americans" series are some oretty awesome portraits.

 

[Mike_E]

It seems to me that the difference between porn and art is that if it reminds you of animals in rut then it's porn.

 

[fido dog]

It seems to me that the difference between porn and art is that if it reminds you of animals in rut then it's porn.

Or a donkey unloading on an asian chick in a basket......:lmao:

Sorry........I couldn't help it!!

 

[fido dog]

I don't want to interject somerhing new here but I did a fearch on Serrano http://www.artnet.com/usernet/awc/a...202827&gid=424202827&works_of_art=1&cid=74183 and WOW!! if you can get past some of the more offensive stuff (and that is in the eye of the beholder) the "americans" series are some oretty awesome portraits.

WOW!! I'm sorry, but I have never heard of him before..:blushing: I feel embarassed. What incredible stuff. I did an auction report on artnet and you better have some serious cash to get ahold of one. Stunning!

 

[fido dog]

I think the biggest problem with nudes and porn is finding a willing subject with the same ideals and expected outcome.

 

[kundalini]

I thought this was spam until I noticed the Battou started it and there were 39 replies.

This topic reminds me of the old joke asking the difference between erotic and exotic. Something about one uses the whole chicken.

The point being that it is in the eye of the beholder. PERIOD.

I think the American public, in general, are so anal retentive that they can't see the forest for the trees. Pornography is an expression that evokes primal intensions with little regard to the left side of the brain. Art, on the other hand, requires the viewer to interperlate the image and decide for themselves of its' value.

It's a very thin line, gossamer in fact, the difference. Isn't that the constant struggle we humans endure in our day to day lives? Each of us have our own set of values. But isn't it a great day when we can agree to disagree? Your values may not be mine, but I don't hold that against you. Can you do the same?

 

[Mike_E]

Desmond was great, but have you tried playing along to Unsquare Dance from Time Further Out?

Funny thing is that people have the same right to be offended as they do to offend.

Live, Laugh, Love-- or don't.

 

[kundalini]

to me there is only one kind of porn

Does morning wood count as pornagraphy????? If so, please plug your eyes and close your ears. I would like to ask the first three rows in front to please take three steps towards the rear while I unleash the beast!