HILARIOUS!

[tirediron]

ABABYSEAN WOW! That photo is amazing! What camera do you have/settings did you use? BTW, I never bitched and complained about the advice just when everyone assumed I was deliberately ignoring their advice.

And there we have the root of your problem. The camera and settings are irrelevant. Unless you are going to shoot the same child, at the same time, with identical light, it matters not a whit what settings she used. If I may, step back from the forums as a learning tool, and head down to your local library and take out every book of photography fundamentals you can. It doesn't matter if they're old books dealing with film, none of the theory has changed. Read, and re-read them. When you have specific questions, post them here. While you're reading, practice - A LOT! Post one or two images for critique, noting what you see as the strengths and weaknesses of them when you post.

 

[cgipson1]

I AGREE! I'm surprised because I've never had this experience anywhere or even in my life. I'm disappointed that I've engaged so long and so fully and yet, a nerve was struck that had nothing to do with photography.blackrose: that B&W photo is intense! I love it! Again...dont mind CC, and don't mind you telling me my pictures are terrible. Just please don't assume I am deliberately ignoring advice. I may just not be posting all my trial and errors. If any of you have ever struggled with anything and even in applying what you've learned, either give me the benefit of the doubt or don't respond. I"m just looking to learn.

Thanks! But I think what it is is no one cares you ignore the advice, but that's what you have to do. Ignore it. You don't have to explain your stance on why, just nod your head and humor people.

Sure.. great way to improve.. just ignore all of the advice!

 

[unpopular]

Given the lack of inspiration around here...

 

[blackrose89]

I AGREE! I'm surprised because I've never had this experience anywhere or even in my life. I'm disappointed that I've engaged so long and so fully and yet, a nerve was struck that had nothing to do with photography.blackrose: that B&W photo is intense! I love it! Again...dont mind CC, and don't mind you telling me my pictures are terrible. Just please don't assume I am deliberately ignoring advice. I may just not be posting all my trial and errors. If any of you have ever struggled with anything and even in applying what you've learned, either give me the benefit of the doubt or don't respond. I"m just looking to learn.

Thanks! But I think what it is is no one cares you ignore the advice, but that's what you have to do. Ignore it. You don't have to explain your stance on why, just nod your head and humor people.

Sure.. great way to improve.. just ignore all of the advice!

I think you need to re-read what I wrote. I didn't say don't take advice, I said if you do choose to ignore advice, just ignore the advice, don't spend 10 threads arguing over it. At least that's what I meant.

 

[cgipson1]

Given the lack of inspiration around here...

Inspiration comes from within, and how you choose to interact with your environment! If you aren't inspired... how is that our fault?

 

[cgipson1]

Thanks! But I think what it is is no one cares you ignore the advice, but that's what you have to do. Ignore it. You don't have to explain your stance on why, just nod your head and humor people.

Sure.. great way to improve.. just ignore all of the advice!

I think you need to re-read what I wrote. I didn't say don't take advice, I said if you do choose to ignore advice, just ignore the advice, don't spend 10 threads arguing over it. At least that's what I meant.

I am just nodding my head and humoring you!

 

[unpopular]

uhm. i wasn't talking about me.

 

[cgipson1]

uhm. i wasn't talking about me.

OH! Sorry bout that! Who WERE you referring to? lol!

 

[unpopular]

LOL. The members here as a whole.

I'm just thinking that maybe the advise here isn't all that great aside from the technical.

 

[tirediron]

LOL. The members here as a whole.

I'm just thinking that maybe the advise here isn't all that great aside from the technical.

And that doesn't include you because...

 

[ababysean]

ABABYSEAN WOW! That photo is amazing! What camera do you have/settings did you use? BTW, I never bitched and complained about the advice just when everyone assumed I was deliberately ignoring their advice.

And there we have the root of your problem. The camera and settings are irrelevant. Unless you are going to shoot the same child, at the same time, with identical light, it matters not a whit what settings she used. If I may, step back from the forums as a learning tool, and head down to your local library and take out every book of photography fundamentals you can. It doesn't matter if they're old books dealing with film, none of the theory has changed. Read, and re-read them. When you have specific questions, post them here. While you're reading, practice - A LOT! Post one or two images for critique, noting what you see as the strengths and weaknesses of them when you post.

I don't mind posting the settings. I think they are relevant. and should be posted with every.single.photo that a poster is asking for. Because then you could get the person to LOOK AT THEIR CHOICES and do a bit of self CC first!

This photo was taken with my D90. I used an 85mm 1.4 lens. ISO800 1/200 F2.2

Why did I choose this? It was getting dark, we were in the shade. I am really bad with camera shake, and my kid moves fast. So I know I wanted as fast of shutter as I could, so I choose to up my ISO in order to keep the shutter at 200. F2.2 because I was really trying for just an eyelash shot. I am standing pretty much directly above her and directed her to look up and then close her eyes. It was a game so I had to be quick... Again, not the most perfect shot EVER but if you look at the first one I posted 1.5 years ago that I was OVER>THE>MOON with (mommy googles anyone?) but I learned, and have tons more, to read between the lines here on TPF, yes, the board is a bit more aggressive then many others, but for some that is the best way to learn. Seriously ignore the personal attacks. They are pointless. don't worry about defending your choices, but instead take a look at your settings and then ask yourself why did you choose those? What do you like, not like, about the picture.... and go from there...

But if you are just spraying and praying, taking 1000 photos a day, and hoping to get one or two good ones... not understanding what you are doing right or doing wrong, what is the point.

So. Go do a little exercise right now, take a toy, set it on the table.

Take your camera and attach your flash, and take a pic like you did with your daughter..... do what you did, but on the toy...

THEN....... do this
rotate the flash to fire behind you (be in the vicinity of a wall, who cares what color it is for now...) up at about a 75 degree angle.... use F4, ISO 400, and 1/40th of a second.

now compare the two photos. post them here. say what looks good/bad about each and explain why they are different....

 

[unpopular]

because i at least try to address the artistic as well as the technical.

 

[cgipson1]

LOL. The members here as a whole.

I'm just thinking that maybe the advise here isn't all that great aside from the technical.

Technical is fairly easy for us to cover.. although it seems that many have trouble absorbing it! The ARTISTIC side of things is MUCH MORE difficult to convey! We can teach some of the rules of Composition.. but we can't teach when or why or how to apply them (not without killing creativity, and creating a bunch of little MWAC clones out there!)

Can you give specifics as to what we are missing?

 

[unpopular]

Can you give specifics as to what we are missing?

I need to learn to stfu.

 

[thereyougo!]

ABABYSEAN WOW! That photo is amazing! What camera do you have/settings did you use? BTW, I never bitched and complained about the advice just when everyone assumed I was deliberately ignoring their advice.

And there we have the root of your problem. The camera and settings are irrelevant. Unless you are going to shoot the same child, at the same time, with identical light, it matters not a whit what settings she used. If I may, step back from the forums as a learning tool, and head down to your local library and take out every book of photography fundamentals you can. It doesn't matter if they're old books dealing with film, none of the theory has changed. Read, and re-read them. When you have specific questions, post them here. While you're reading, practice - A LOT! Post one or two images for critique, noting what you see as the strengths and weaknesses of them when you post.

A year or more back, I liked the effect of a photograph in a photography magazine in the UK. It had the EXIF information with the caption. This led me to experiment with similar settings and helped me try using different apertures/shooting speeds. So I think that the setting speeds can be very useful and relevant. It's not about trying to replicate the shot, but to learn how that shot was taken.
To AMOMENT, go ahead and read some books and magazines, try some different things out. Follow ABABYSEAN's excellent advice. I know it's winter, but try and get some shots outside. You can get some amazing natural light at this time of year and shot some landscapes and cityscapes. If you have a tripod or something else experimet with low light shooting. Set yourself some chalenges using skills you read about.

I would suggest that you post less images and be careful to try and pick your very best one.