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I'm struggling to decide on a camera, sensor size, mirrorless or SLR...Think you can help? ;)

But it used out the gate and never loose a dime...no matter what you buy the pic will look the same as my $75 d5000. It will take you months just to learn some of the features of the new cameras. Don't get me wrong I would love to have a d7500 so I can do bigger prints...16x20 is the max for my $75 body.
I love this rediculous thread...
Oh you better post some shots...

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Just so you guys know, I'm currently not missing out on taking photographs with this prolonged research and decision making...I want to have this by the time I hope to go back out to the Canadian Rockies the third week in September.

Anybody sell anything recently to get an idea of what percentage of original purchase price (new) I can expect to sell for used?

with Canon - 80% resell rate
with Nikon - 60% resell rate
I've heard there could be a 50% resell rate with the others

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Suppose we do this in reverse! I buy my first lens!

I worked a 10 hour day so I haven't had time to resume thinking about this!

But now I'm back at it...a glass of Abita Purple Haze and trying to figure what camera to get...wondering if I'll get back to Jasper NP to take some pictures!
 
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Sigma 18-35mm F1.8 Art DC HSM Lens for Canon

vs

Canon 16-35 mm f/4 EF L IS USM Lens

Curious
 
If you do go to Jasper, go to Syrahs of Jasper. I used to be friends with the chef, Jason. I don't think he'd remember me anymore or anything, but you should still try the cheesecake. :)
 
I have to resolve these things, I go to bed thinking about this and it keeps me from sleeping soundly.

The lens question was a serious one. I plan to have a zoom in that range, regardless of camera type, unless I can be convinced that it's MUCH better to have two primes instead.
 
If the 6D had more HDR modes, wasn't 5 years old, and didn't get it's ass kicked by Nikon I'd get it.

If the 6D Mark ii wasn't $2000 and I didn't read that in some regards it took steps backwards from the original I'd get it.

If I didn't already have Canon lenses and Nikon had more HDR shooting modes, or I felt certain that I could learn how to create beautiful HDR's with bracketed shots in software I'd get the D610.

Then again, Canon only saved HDR shots in JPEG and I understand I should be getting away from that.
 
HDR is a "processed" image
RAW file formats are "unprocessed"

Anytime you use any feature in the camera to change the image it will be processed, and saved as a JPEG or TIFF.
 
Then again, how nerdy and wonkish are these nitpicking comparisons of dynamic range and image quality and noise levels at higher ISO's anyway? I'm a guy that is use to 35mm film, cell phone and early 21st century point and shoot photography anyway! Images created with modern APS-C cameras are probably going to blow my mind, whether it's the D7200 or 80D...and photographs taken with a full frame camera, whether it's the D610 or a 5 year old 6D with inferior dxomarks will probably REALLY blow my mind regardless!
 
The comparisons of dynamic range, image quality, and noise levels are anything but nerdy or wonkish, they are important criteria of how well a camera body performs. in fact they are the *ONLY* important criteria of how well a camera body works. Fluff like style modes and build-in HDR and swivel screens or any of the other myriad "Stuff" have absolutely zero bearing on how well a camera body can render a scene.

The first thing I do when I get a new camera is to go through the menus and disable as much of the built-in junk as I can. The last thing I want a camera body to do is to help me improve my photos with all the built-in nonsense. I want the file I download from my camera to my computer to be as generic as possible. I'll finish it the way I want it to be.
 
Then again, how nerdy and wonkish are these nitpicking comparisons of dynamic range and image quality and noise levels at higher ISO's anyway? I'm a guy that is use to 35mm film, cell phone and early 21st century point and shoot photography anyway! Images created with modern APS-C cameras are probably going to blow my mind, whether it's the D7200 or 80D...and photographs taken with a full frame camera, whether it's the D610 or a 5 year old 6D with inferior dxomarks will probably REALLY blow my mind regardless!
Don't get too far ahead of yourself.

I used to do film. Then got back into digital with an old Nikon. Then got back in again with a point & shoot.
Then bought a new nikon DSLR some 4+ years ago.

You still have to learn how to use the camera.
Disregard what you think you know.

Just make a decision, which you already did, and get a camera already.
a DSLR is a very complex camera that allows you full control over a multitude of functions. I always did things the easy way on a Canon AE-1 and later Nikon N80 & D70. Everything I thought I knew was really nothing. I had to learn everything as a newbie. P&S and Cell cameras will probably be stellar in comparison to your DSLR images at the beginning. Thus the reason you need time to learn it.

A good DSLR or mirrorless really brings out how bad someone really knows photography.
 
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I echo astroNikon. A dSLR is like a race car. Just because you drive a Corolla around town, doesn't mean you can manage to drive a Formula 1.

One of the greats in 'early' photography is Ansel Adams. He would "previsualize" the image in his mind, then adjust the camera to capture his imagined image. You attain consistency and the skill of capturing how you see, (as opposed to what you see), by shooting, shooting again and then shooting some more. Becoming familiar with your equipment, an intimacy of adjusting your setting to reflect your previsualized image ... semi automatically, without looking at the camera, knowing the FOV, DOF and sharpness of each lens and how each lens will capture the image at closeup, mid-range and long-range can best and often only be attained through usage.

There is no perfect camera, there is no right or wrong camera ... remember that whatever camera you purchase, whatever format you buy ... the grass will always be greener ...
 
Just when I think you guys will tell me that no matter what camera I choose it will be phenomenal, making me feel at ease that I can't make a mistake, you make the case that cameras are different and my research must go on!
 

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