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  1. JTPhotography

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    D850 andD500 are still king in the FX/DX world and the new batch of mirrorless bodies from any brand does nothing to change that.


     
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    Being a D850 shooter, I'm kind of biased, but I'll agree :D
     
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    Its all a matter of opinion.......;)
     
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    JTPhotography No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    Yes, supported by overwhelming facts and data.
     
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    Mirrorless is just the new fad in my view.

    It does make sense for those who are buying smaller sensor mirrorless cameras as they offer you the convenience of a point and shoot with the features, interchangeable lens and controls of a DSLR. Where they are not doing fullframe mirrorless I start to see less and less reason to consider them a viable option as the mirrorless system means that sure you save on the mirrorbox; but that's really all its got going for it. You have reduced battery performance due to the need to run live-view all the time; you've reduced feedback through the viewfinder for any action or fast panning; you've not really saved on weight much because the lens has to cover the same sensor size as a regular DSLR for fullframe*.

    Personally I still want a mirrorless, but one with a smaller sensor so that it makes sense as a lighter pocket camera with controls/features/interface I'm more used too. I don't see any reason to swap a regular DSLR for a mirrorless of the same sensorsize and performance.


    *Honestly any weight saving going on there I wager is either smaller maximum apertures and/or general weight saving through new technologies that would happen for the next version of a regular DSLR lens of the same focal length anyway
     
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    goooner Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    Agree with overread, I was wowed by the A9 when shooting with it at a sales evening. But was equally wowed by the D5 when I had 2 hours with it at a sporting event. For the same money, I would probably get the D5.
     
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    Well if he said it, it must be true. Seriously though, does it really matter?
     
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    I think the key phrase you used was, “swap a regular DSLR for a mirrorless”. I think it’s gotten to the point to where these systems are very comparable. Can you really say that the D850 has something so much better than a *fill in your favorite full frame body* that it would warrant the swap (new lenses/accessories)?

    @dustin decided it was worthwhile to make the swap (I think he went from a D800 to an XT3 correct me if I’m wrong). He may have a good opinion since he actually made the move.
     
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    I bought a Sony A6000 when they came out. I have the 16-55 and 55-200 lens for it and they work great. I mostly use it for travel and it is perfect for that. The A6000 is about as mirrorless as I plan on getting.
     
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    BTW, do you own and shoot enough samples of each group to validate Tom's "findings?" Just asking...
     
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    This is, imo, a silly pixel-peeper discussion. discussion.
    One uses the best one likes and wants to or can afford to make images.
    Once past a certain point, and all modern cameras are past that point, it is much more the skill and artistic insight of the photographer that makes a difference rather than the mostly trivial difference between bodies.
     
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