Is it just me ?

[bigtwinky]

As a relatively newcomer to both photography and these forums, I don't really notice a huge issue with attitudes. I've been on posting forums for the better part of the last 15 years and each and every forum I have been on / modded, there are always the bad apples that just like to stir the **** and piss people off.

Might there be more than before? Could be. Photography is getting bigger, digital makes it more accessible, bla bla... so the more people you attract, the more potential bad apples you'll get. But really, I don't find it worse or better than other forums I visit (photography and non)

I don't really frequent a particular section. I usually just check the New Posts or use the Search function. If I haven't been here in a while, then I might focus on some forum more than another, but that really hasn't happened yet. Some days there are 1,500 New Posts and I just get to the ones I get to.

I do try and post in the beginner section. I'm not a pro, I don't even qualify myself as anything... I'm just learning. If my 2 bit advise can help someone out, I'll post it. If I see the same question 3 times in a row, I'll probably answer one of them, not all 3.

It is what it is.

As Jerry said, I'll stick around as long as this place is interesting and fun to post in, which it has been. When its not, I'll just stop coming.

 

[JerryPH]

Avoiding the "Beginner's Section" won't go towards creating a strong forum. We need the more experienced photogs in there more regularly.

To many people are blaming the new people who post these threads for their agravation, when its yourselves causing it by opening those threads and responding.

Respect is not a gift... it is earned. To get it, you have to give it.

Lack of respect to me, here, means being lazy and asking someone to answer your exact same question that has been asked and answered dozens of times over without searching for an immediate answer. Where is the respect to all the users that have to wade through all of that day in and day out?

Reading and passing over threads. We both know that this will not work for a couple reasons... first I still would be reading 75% or more of the posts that are repetitive and/or mundane and to know what each thread is about requires that the original poster use a proper title or header to properly identify it... again, something that a vast majority of the time is not very accurate or indicative of the thread content.

Teach newbies to use the search and make it a point of courtesy to use it before posting. After so many years (perhaps more than a decade?) 95% of the questions asked in here on a daily basis are answered not once but several times over already. Be a big boy or big girl and not be afraid to click on the search button... for a start.

The topic of obliging me to participate in the beginners section... why would I need to subject myself to something that would make my experience here near intolerable to me? I would rather avoid one section and participate in other areas that I enjoy here, rather than need to read something that annoys me tremendously and pretty much would entice me to leave on a permanent basis within a very short time.

 

[Dagwood56]

Yes, wins,... He who has the conch shall speak.

Anyway, back to the OT.

Dagwood, it comes and goes in waves and cycles. And we're all here for different reasons although the common thread is said to be photography.

I think for the most part the trick is to get what you want out of it, and when things get too stupid, find other sources to fulfill your wants and needs.

Thanks for the feedback.

 

[Dagwood56]

Thanks to all who responded.

Also to the respondent above who I PM'd earlier today - and who has asked me not to PM them again and who called me a "cry baby, a second rate instigator by starting this thread, and a coward" for not arguing with them here on the forum - I feel I took the correct and the adult approach to the situation by not arguing with you here. And that's the last I have to say to you on this matter!

 

[Chiller]

Being an 03er, I have seen a lot of changes here, along with the attitude, but then again, this place has gone from a small town to a big city. Even the change of owners reflect that. We used to have that small town mayor, now we have non existant senators, that just cash in on the $$$ they make from this place and could really give a rats A$$. It is sad really , cause we used to have some brilliant photographers here that were driven away by the " new " attitude of the forum, members and owners. Most have left for other more peaceful laid back forums or no forums at all. Yeah, it is possible to learn without the snotlings ruining every thread they post in with their ego-attitude replies.
Me ? I have turned to to searching Google, and Youtube for tutorials. The chances of me posting any images here is....well...pretty slim, especially after a few comments I recieved...in the freekin Just For Fun gallery, which I was told by some "new" members should be for hobby photographers so they are not wasting time stroking egos, or signing a guestbook.(who the hell are you anyways) This place is nothing but a joke now.
As for guns....they are made to kill, and that only. If people are proud of their killing machines, and want to photograph them...fine. Maybe just post a warning for the more sensitive viewers.

Bye.

 

[Josh66]

Thanks to all who responded.

Also to the respondent above who I PM'd earlier today - and who has asked me not to PM them again and who called me a "cry baby, a second rate instigator by starting this thread, and a coward" for not arguing with them here on the forum - I feel I took the correct and the adult approach to the situation by not arguing with you here. And that's the last I have to say to you on this matter!

Wow, I don't know who the other party is (and it should probably stay that way), but it sounds like you're the more mature one...


Maybe I'm just not on here enough (can't imagine that, I do spend too much time on here...), but I haven't really noticed whatever it is that is driving everyone away. It is sad that we have lost a few people that I felt were some of the most knowledgeable people on here (Helen B comes to mind...), maybe I just haven't been looking at the right threads.

 

[Dagwood56]

Being an 03er, I have seen a lot of changes here, along with the attitude, but then again, this place has gone from a small town to a big city. Even the change of owners reflect that. We used to have that small town mayor, now we have non existant senators, that just cash in on the $$$ they make from this place and could really give a rats A$$. It is sad really , cause we used to have some brilliant photographers here that were driven away by the " new " attitude of the forum, members and owners. Most have left for other more peaceful laid back forums or no forums at all. Yeah, it is possible to learn without the snotlings ruining every thread they post in with their ego-attitude replies.
Me ? I have turned to to searching Google, and Youtube for tutorials. The chances of me posting any images here is....well...pretty slim, especially after a few comments I recieved...in the freekin Just For Fun gallery, which I was told by some "new" members should be for hobby photographers so they are not wasting time stroking egos, or signing a guestbook.(who the hell are you anyways) This place is nothing but a joke now.
As for guns....they are made to kill, and that only. If people are proud of their killing machines, and want to photograph them...fine. Maybe just post a warning for the more sensitive viewers.

Bye.

Thanks for your response Chiller. I know I've become reluctant to post photos here. I used to post stuff when I first joined and then i was away from the board for a year and when I returned it was Dr Jekyl & Mr Hyde! And yes,:thumbup: that would be fine with me in regard to the gun photos, just a simple acknowledgement in the title so someone who is bothered by looking down the barrel of a gun doesn't have to do it.

Thanks again for your response.

 

[sleepingdragon]

I have definetly found many touchy people on this forum. I try to stick to another I forum I go to for most advice. There are many nice folks here but sometimes it just takes a couple of insensitive people to ruin it.

Chiller please post more of your beautiful pictures, many of us here really enjoy them.

 

[Dagwood56]

Wow, I don't know who the other party is (and it should probably stay that way), but it sounds like you're the more mature one...


Maybe I'm just not on here enough (can't imagine that, I do spend too much time on here...), but I haven't really noticed whatever it is that is driving everyone away. It is sad that we have lost a few people that I felt were some of the most knowledgeable people on here (Helen B comes to mind...), maybe I just haven't been looking at the right threads.

There are a lot of people who I don't see on here anymore, and many who only appear now and then, and it is sad....
Thanks for your thoughts.

 

[Dagwood56]

I have definetly found many touchy people on this forum. I try to stick to another I forum I go to for most advice. There are many nice folks here but sometimes it just takes a couple of insensitive people to ruin it.

Chiller please post more of your beautiful pictures, many of us here really enjoy them.

I made note of all the other forums people go to from a thread posted somewhere on here the other day and I think I may look into some of them...

Thaks for responding.

 

[kundalini]

Most have left for other more peaceful laid back forums or no forums at all. Yeah, it is possible to learn without the snotlings ruining every thread they post in with their ego-attitude replies.

Maybe I'm just not on here enough (can't imagine that, I do spend too much time on here...), but I haven't really noticed whatever it is that is driving everyone away.

See quote above.

The attitude isn't just recent, been going on for a while, but with the new changes to TPF, it certainly hasn't improved. And it doesn't seem to bother the new owners.

I know I've become reluctant to post photos here.

I started this thread as half of a laugh, but mostly out of frustration. A time may come that I retract my thoughts, but for the time being, I won't. What is troubling is that most people thought I was stomping my foot and leaving the forum altogether.

Gun photos don't bother me except when it's accompanied with that stupid 'king attitude. I do like the craftsmanship involved with its manufacture.

 

[Dweller]

but with the new changes to TPF, it certainly hasn't improved. And it doesn't seem to bother the new owners.

They would have to look here once in a while to notice. I pretty much suspected it would go down just the way it has. They come in acting as if they have interest in learning about the subject, the members and the culture of this forum, throw up some new paint and then sit back and start pimping the traffic numbers so they can make as much money as possible from it while they move on to the next forum and pretend they are interested in underwater basket weaving or whatever the topic of the next victim is.

I miss the old TPF (when Chase ran it) and I miss a lot of the names we do not see around here anymore. That is not a knock on the new names, we have some helpful and talented people here but this place is a shell of what attracted me to it in the first place.

RIP TPF.

 

[Joves]

I joined to argue and make people upset. I should also mention that I am the world's greatest photographer.

Love & Bass

Uncle Ken is that you?
Yeah I do notice at time people do seem a tad testy.I havent been here as mauch as I was due to work and, getting stuck on sodahead sometimes. I try to keep my venting there. But alot of it is many times the questions have been answered and, I really have nothing to add.

 

[JE Kay]

:lmao: I love forums..... Nothing brings out the complete loser in people that are, well surprise surprise total losers in real life.

I love the people who feel it's their job or duty to mod every post in every thread on photography forums, it's especially hilarious because most of these morons work in retail where they probably annoy the hell out of everyone they work with and customers refer to them as ignorant know-it-all ass-heads, usually right to their faces.

Well I guess if this place has fallen to sh@t it won't be long before I delete it and move on. I don't know anyone here so I don't really care.

Chiller, if there's somewhere you hang online that isn't a pissing contest all the time where post you work let me know. I'd gladly drop by, it's nice to meet someone who says it like it is and produces awesome work as well. Cheers... :thumbup:

 

[kundalini]

I started this thread as half of a laugh, but mostly out of frustration. A time may come that I retract my thoughts, but for the time being, I won't.

Ooops, I forgot one exception......

Now that the UNIVERSITY OF NORTH CAROLINA TARHEELS have won the NCAA championship, Fight Club is back on the table for Sundays. :lmao: