Is it just me...

kirbym2 · Oct 27, 2011

I'm a pretty mellow guy. I don't take things too seriously (usually). Follow a lot of these threads to learn, and really get a lot out of them. A lot of really knowledgeable contributors.

Back to the "is it just me" part - What's the deal with posters who feel it their obligation to post comments like "it's always best to number your photos - you'll get more feedback that way" or "Understanding Exposure is a must read" I get it if you're chiming in with your .02 - And if this is coming from a variety of sources, great. I get the sense though that a couple of posters are on Brian Peterson's payroll, as I see the same people add the same comments in response to these type of questions. Post the question "What's a great beginner book?" and you'll see what I mean.

I know that the number of posts you have = your contribution to the site. I tend to take comments from heavy posters with greater weight because I automatically assume that they have a strong grasp of concepts and are able to speak on a number of topics with a high level of expertise. Maybe the wrong assumption, but there it is. Irritating that a couple of posters drive up their numbers with posts like those I mentioned above.

Odd rant... am I the only one?

Bitter Jeweler · Oct 27, 2011

We love rant threads!

Bitter Jeweler · Oct 27, 2011

Do you not see the value of numbering your pictures you are asking for comments on?

Foxx · Oct 27, 2011

I'm sure if we had a ton of new members asking specific questions that were based on a foundation of solid photography knowledge they'd be getting(and you'd be seeing) more varied responses.

But most of the time they are asking "c&c first shots ever" and all have the same basic problems with composition, exposure, lighting, etc. The resources referred to are usually good material and the phrase "don't fix what isn't broken" becomes quite relevant, yes?

Same goes for giving tips on structuring posts.

In fact I'm really not sure what your problem is :| I think you are just noticing that the beginners forum is, in fact, for beginners and the range of problems and questions associated with this forum is not all that varied as -- again -- its for beginning photographers.

kirbym2 · Oct 27, 2011

Oh don't get me wrong... I definitely see the value in it. Just don't see why contributor "x" is on a C&C thread within minutes to post "You'll get more feedback if you number...." Share the love... let someone else say it... ANYONE

Kerbouchard · Oct 27, 2011

You should go read the thread about 'how to read your manual'. You could ask that poster if he will make a thread about how to use an online forum.

Yes, there are at least 2 or 3 posters with thousands and thousands of posts that you can safely put on ignore. In reality, they have only made 5 posts, they just repeated them over a thousand times.

Ignore 'em and move on.

Oh, and for what it's worth, 'Understanding Exposure' is overrated.

mrpink · Oct 27, 2011

kirbym2 said:
I know that the number of posts you have = your contribution to the site.

false.

p!nK

Overread · Oct 27, 2011

*moving to discussions subsection*

In general when someone new to photography starts to ask about good beginners books then common texts are going to come up - and since the fundamentals of photography haven't changed you'll get similar books recommended. Understanding Exposure is a prime example of such a book - furthermore being a currently published book its easily available to people both new and second hand.

If you want more variety in the answers and discussions you'll have to start putting up your own intermediate and advanced level threads geared toward such. There are certainly more than enough here able to contribute to such discussions, but they won't happen without you. You've got to spark them off - otherwise they won't appear.

Crollo · Oct 27, 2011

You might get more feedback if you sign your post, good thread though!

Bitter Jeweler · Oct 27, 2011

kirbym2 said:
Oh don't get me wrong... I definitely see the value in it. Just don't see why contributor "x" is on a C&C thread within minutes to post "You'll get more feedback if you number...." Share the love... let someone else say it... ANYONE

If you'd like to make a book of rules, letting us know who should post when, feel free.

If you are tired of seeing someones posts, put them on ignore.

If you are tired of someone repeatedly ragging on other users because their posts don't meet their standards, put them on ignore.

If you are tired of someone repeatedly insinuating only their posts have value, put them on ignore!

MTVision · Oct 27, 2011

kirbym2 said:
I'm a pretty mellow guy. I don't take things too seriously (usually). Follow a lot of these threads to learn, and really get a lot out of them. A lot of really knowledgeable contributors.

Back to the "is it just me" part - What's the deal with posters who feel it their obligation to post comments like "it's always best to number your photos - you'll get more feedback that way" or "Understanding Exposure is a must read" I get it if you're chiming in with your .02 - And if this is coming from a variety of sources, great. I get the sense though that a couple of posters are on Brian Peterson's payroll, as I see the same people add the same comments in response to these type of questions. Post the question "What's a great beginner book?" and you'll see what I mean.

I know that the number of posts you have = your contribution to the site. I tend to take comments from heavy posters with greater weight because I automatically assume that they have a strong grasp of concepts and are able to speak on a number of topics with a high level of expertise. Maybe the wrong assumption, but there it is. Irritating that a couple of posters drive up their numbers with posts like those I mentioned above.

Odd rant... am I the only one?

Hmmm....well, Understanding Exposure is a good beginners book since people don't understand exposure and don't bother to do any research. How hard is it to google exposure? Not very hard.....Instead they come here and ask a bunch of questions - some don't understand the answers given since its over their head because they don't know the basics. People recommend what worked for them.

Oh yeah - you forgot to mention - the people who post 15 pictures for CC and the people who post links to their blogs, websites, Flickr and want you to CC them all. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't sit there and go through 15 or 40 pictures and give CC. So, maybe everyone should just stop telling the new members to # their pictures, post 1-3 pictures for cc and To actually post the picture - not the link. That might help them even more when nobody replies!

I, for one, don't assume (you know what they say about that) that because some has a huge number of posts that they are experienced in photography.

MLeeK · Oct 27, 2011

Maybe that's the level of feedback that "X" feels comfortable giving back yet. Everyone wants to be able to give back some of what they have learned. You can only give back what you are comfortable with, so... Maybe that's their comfort zone.

Coming from a relative newbie who knows a lot more than the # of posts reflects...

dots · Oct 27, 2011

Foxx said:
"c&c first shots ever"

LOL

MTVision · Oct 27, 2011

MTVision said:
Hmmm....well, Understanding Exposure is a good beginners book since people don't understand exposure and don't bother to do any research. How hard is it to google exposure? Not very hard.....Instead they come here and ask a bunch of questions - some don't understand the answers given since its over their head because they don't know the basics. People recommend what worked for them.

Oh yeah - you forgot to mention - the people who post 15 pictures for CC and the people who post links to their blogs, websites, Flickr and want you to CC them all. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't sit there and go through 15 or 40 pictures and give CC. So, maybe everyone should just stop telling the new members to # their pictures, post 1-3 pictures for cc and To actually post the picture - not the link. That might help them even more when nobody replies!

I, for one, don't assume (you know what they say about that) that because some has a huge number of posts that they are experienced in photography.

^^^^ I was being bitchy!

Seriously though, I will tell people to not post so many pictures, and how to post the actual link because I was told that when I first started posting here. So, some don't do it just to be jerks - its actually valid advice.

ann · Oct 27, 2011

The only time I suggested that the op might get more response if they didn't post some many photos, someone ( I really don't remember who) took me to task for saying that, made me wonder just what there problem was and decided they had too much to drink.