It's Not an Animal! - Attempted Portait. C&C Welcome

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Hey! My first shot that is not a rat or a dog for you all to see. I practically forced my sister into sitting still for some shots...

What do you think?

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Figured out quickly my fill light can't properly "fill" when the main light is MUCH stronger. My sister is incapable of looking happy as well. She's my little emo sister.

From a technical standpoint, how goes it? You think it's too tight a crop? The shirt was a t-shirt and the white of her arm was distracting so I tried to crop and leave that out.
 
I think it looks really good. What was your lighting setup? The shadows across her face suit her sombre expression. Maybe it would be nicer to see a bit more definition between her hair and the background, but it doesn't look too bad as it is.
 
That was exactly my thought about the hair!! No one here at the house I showed it to thought that but I still had that niggling about it. I thought the wrinkling in the sheet (background) might help with that a bit.

As for lighting... Overhead and to the right was a flourescent light (this was done in our basement). To the left I had my tripod set up with my external flash, and I bounced that off the ceiling. There was a lamp on the bottom right, but I can't for the life of me remember where it was pointed or if it was even on for this shot... *blushes* I was trying so many different things to get rid of this stupid shadow that kept cropping up.

I didn't do much in PP; I didn't change the lighting or contrast or anything like that. I retouched her face a bit as she had some blemishes. But even then it was very minute.
 
You never want to have a woman straight on to the camera. Always have their shoulder pointer toward the camera. And their shoulders back. That is a more feminine pose.
 
I'm positive that is a basic rule I have read somewhere, and more than once. Thanks for the reminder!
 
The hair/background/shirt all blend in too much :/ Would be nice if she could wear a color other than black!
 
The hair/background/shirt all blend in too much :/ Would be nice if she could wear a color other than black!

Or, if you had a kicker light to give her hair and shirt some separation from the background. Black on black can be a cool looking portrait.

And GSGary's right about getting her off the background. Six feet or more off the background and the wrinkles/shadows/etc... start to be much less noticeable.

Oh, and your sister looks SO much like my little emo niece that I found the pic a little eerie...
 
Yep, she was too close to the background. That's for sure and for certain. *jots that down*

Pugs could you explain about the kicker light? I am trying my hardest to learn about lighting but if I read it online or even in books, it just... Goes over the top of my head. I need to find a lighting workshop somewhere. I bought "The Complete Guide to Light and Lighting in Digital Photography" by Michael Freeman in an attempt to learn... But I'll be jiggered if I understood most of it.

RP... I agree with you there. However my sister, if she is not wearing black, is wearing something with words all over the front. For instance, before I asked her to change she had on a Run DMC shirt. But I was really taken with the black on black. In reality, that sheet is dark grey... I do have a lighter one though, might work better! I'd like to try this set up again and make a few adjustments, taking in to account all the comments here, and see how it goes.

Thanks guys!
 
A kicker light or rim light or hair light are various terms for a secondary (or sometimes tertiary, quaternary, quinary, or more) lighting instrument that is usually placed to the side, above, below, and or behind to varying degrees to give more definition to the subject "kicking" it/him/her out from the background a bit. I do like the black on black look. When you're doing that, though, think about whether you want the subject to have some separation or to fade into the background like this.

The gray sheet is showing somewhat close to black because the light is falling off quickly, which is neither a good thing or a bad thing and can be controlled by shutter speed and by having a lighting instrument illuminating the background or not. You can make white show as black or black show as white with the right set-up... though you'll have to work at it for those extremes. This is one of the reasons why gray backgrounds are somewhat popular. You can have them show gray, white, or black (or colored with different gels) so you're basically getting multiple backgrounds with a single one.
 
Thank you for explaining that! And for the color and background explaination. I had no idea about any of that. I was in search of a black sheet but found that grey one. Not a lot of thought went behind the choice but now I see why it's a good thing.

In our basement we have overhead flourescent lights... When I did this I put her to the left of one of these lights. Do you think if I positioned everything to where the sheet hung behind one of the lights it would suffice to "seperate" the background and the subject? In addition to moving her out further away from the background. My thinking on that is the flourescent working as make do strip light. With that in place I'd need something else to use for fill light, which I need to work on... I'm seeing the value of having two external flashes although at this point in my learning I'd need to research that a lot more heavily.

I also need to get a sync cord that isn't bunchy/springy. I'm severely limited in my movement for fear of moving too much and knocking down the tripod/flash unit. *is off to Amazon*
 
your doing so well.. lovely picture.... and i learned from this thread
 

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