My little rant

[Josh220]

Does anyone else see the irony in the fact that the ranter is ranting about other ranters, and in the process they have created a thread full of ranting that is just as bad, if not worse, than the threads they are basing their rant on?

Another thread full of win, no doubt.

 

[ShutterbugSarah]

I'm not basing my thread about any thread on here...And it is a Rant thread, that's why I titled it that.

 

[STM]

But I'm not bitter, ...

Um, perhaps you missed the title and basis for your own thread?

I'm ranting... So your saying you don't get upset and tell someone the story or reason. Doesn't mean I'm bitter, I kinda wanted to see other peoples opinions.

Honestly Sarah, if I were you I would just quit while you're ahead. This thread has descended almost into the realm of stupidity. It has FAR OUTLIVED ANY USEFULNESS.

 

[ShutterbugSarah]

Um, perhaps you missed the title and basis for your own thread?

I'm ranting... So your saying you don't get upset and tell someone the story or reason. Doesn't mean I'm bitter, I kinda wanted to see other peoples opinions.

Honestly Sarah, if I were you I would just quit while you're ahead. This thread has descended almost into the realm of stupidity. It has FAR OUTLIVED ANY USEFULNESS.

Your right, thank you.

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

But I'm not bitter...

You rang?

 

[rexbobcat]

The same has been said for any art for millenia. It isn't the canvas, it's the painter. It isn't the camera, it''s the photographer. It isn't the guitar, it's the musician.

And that is all very true.

The second half of your post is however total bull.

Why, then, is a Stradivarius such a prized instrument if it doesn't matter?

Is it a prized instrument to an irish fiddle player? Hell NO! Is it a prized instrument to a member of some rock band using a violin in some video? Hell no.

Is it a prized instrument to the last teenager who forgot one on the NYC subway? Hell YES. But only in the sense that they know they are going to catch hell for forgetting it somewhere...

If you don't get the difference between art and bull****, so be it, but don't try and make your views the ultimate views...

From what I understand of contemporary art (which encompasses post-modernism), there is sometimes a VERY thin line between art and bull****.

My sister is an artist in Austin, TX, and she was featured in an exhibit last summer where some of her earthwork that she worked 6 months on was shown. The guy who shared her room in the exhibit had an artwork that consisted of a leafblower blowing a dollar bill against a piece of glass. Maybe it just goes way over my head, but I would not exactly call that art when I look at it from a critical standpoint.

 

[OscarWilde]

But I'm not bitter...

You rang?

 

[ShutterbugSarah]

But I'm not bitter...

You rang?

I wasn't gonna reply any more but hahahah good one.

 

[unpopular]

LOL @ $800 setup.... I'm happy with my $600, depreciated to $250 setup. Stop down metering, ftw!

(And if you don't know what that means, I guess I have a right to be snobby. With or without a 5d mk whatever)

 

[STM]

I will do you one better, my first 135mm lens in 1972 had a PRESET APERTURE RING! Now THAT is dating myself!

 

[unpopular]

The same has been said for any art for millenia. It isn't the canvas, it's the painter. It isn't the camera, it''s the photographer. It isn't the guitar, it's the musician.And that is all very true.The second half of your post is however total bull.Why, then, is a Stradivarius such a prized instrument if it doesn't matter?

Is it a prized instrument to an irish fiddle player? Hell NO! Is it a prized instrument to a member of some rock band using a violin in some video? Hell no.Is it a prized instrument to the last teenager who forgot one on the NYC subway? Hell YES. But only in the sense that they know they are going to catch hell for forgetting it somewhere...If you don't get the difference between art and bull****, so be it, but don't try and make your views the ultimate views...

From what I understand of contemporary art (which encompasses post-modernism), there is sometimes a VERY thin line between art and bull****.My sister is an artist in Austin, TX, and she was featured in an exhibit last summer where some of her earthwork that she worked 6 months on was shown. The guy who shared her room in the exhibit had an artwork that consisted of a leafblower blowing a dollar bill against a piece of glass. Maybe it just goes way over my head, but I would not exactly call that art when I look at it from a critical standpoint.

I made my whole undergrad education about bullshart. I painted a canvas white and forged Claude Monet's name and asked $150 million for it. Much of the later postmodern stuff was meant as a mockery. The fact that neoclassical art is starting to make a resegance to replace postmodernism says only that the postmodernists were right - "What do we do now? Go back to boring dull, uninspired realist paintings of barns and bowls of fruit I guess"

 

[unpopular]

I will do you one better, my first 135mm lens in 1972 had a PRESET APERTURE RING! Now THAT is dating myself!

Hell man. If I could afford it, I'd still be shooting my Graflex RB Series B. My Wista didn't even have a shuttered lens, rather a JML 150\4 process lens mounted on a linhof board.

But of course, stop down metering is by definition preset aperture. My two favorite lenses are preset. I only have one AF/AE lens, which I never use. There is something to be said about taking things slowly. It's hard to say if I had more money I'd invest in modern optics, and of course the cheapy aps glass costs about as much as many older lenses I have my eye on, but I like the process and the look which older glass offers.

 

[manaheim]

Wow ok bud whatever you say. I'm judging them for their gear, but I believe if your going to be spending that much money on something you should be using it for its full potential. Otherwise it's a bit of a waste. And still I do get somewhat bitter towards people who do shoot on nothing but program/auto who have entry DSLRs.

Really? Do you really want to go down that road? I'm betting you spent more money than most people have available to them on what gear you have, and I would bet all that money and more that you are not using it to its fullest potential. If you can make that assertion of those who spent more than you, than there are those who spent less than you that can make the same assertion about you.

In both cases the argument is ridiculous. You spend what you can afford to spend and what you choose to spend... your skill level or how you use what you choose to buy is irrelevant.

But I'm not bitter, and I wouldn't call it "marginal gear". It is something very capable of taking good pictures, and that's what I need it for. I call it living in my means. I could of bought a D7000 but that would of left me almost nothing left for glass. I'll probably upgrade later on once I have a better stockpile of money.

It is marginal gear, plain and simple. Does it take pictures? Sure! Does it even take decent ones? Sure. Does it have all the capabilities of some of the better bodies? Hell no. It's absolutely middle of the road. Nothing wrong with that, but accept it for what it is.

It makes perfect sense that you would buy what you can afford and live within your means... right up until the point where you point at people who have spent more than you and judge them unworthy of having such a device.

Look someone else said it... quit this.

Ranting threads are always the same. Someone has their panties in a knot about something where they really don't have much of a leg to stand on and they foolishly say it out loud. Everyone trounces on them for their crappy logic and offending them and such. This is what you've accomplished.

I'd be SUPER impressed if you surrendered and admitted you were way off... but you can at least salvage this by just dropping it and not defending your position anymore... because... really... it's a BAD position.

 

[ShutterbugSarah]

I don't have to impress anyone, and if you don't like it, I don't care, this is just a little internet argument.

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

You spend what you can afford to spend and what you choose to spend... your skill level or how you use what you choose to buy is irrelevant.

YES!!!