"My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit"

[bribrius]

View attachment 73121bet you wish you could edit this...

:lmao:

 

[SCraig]

bet you wish you could edit this...

:lmao:

Sigh ... Still don't get it, do you?

No, I don't wish I could edit that. First, if I want to edit something I have in excess of 70,000 images of my own I can edit any time I want to.

Second, if I were to edit it then it would simply be to try and show what is wrong with it to help YOU. I get nothing from the effort.

Third, how do you know I didn't? I could save it and edit it all I want. If I am to abide by your No Edit stipulation I just wouldn't post it back.

 

[AlanKlein]

One of the other issues I often see with people asking for a critique of their work, they either don't know what they were trying to accomplish or capture or don't bother to express what they were trying to do or what they find good or bad and/or what it is they are wanting others to critique.

Just putting up an image and saying what do you think or give me come C&C is pretty useless without some background to work with from the photographer. Lew may love a photo, manaheim may hate the same photo and I may be lukewarm or we may have any combination of the above, all for different reasons because we all have our own opinions, likes and dislikes. To me critiquing a photo is as much about the photographer and what they were wanting to accomplish as anything else. There is no right or wrong to an image, only those things we like and don't like. Some are pretty universal and some not so much. If a photographer wants to get they must be willing to give as well.

A picture has to stand on it's own. As the viewer, looking at a picture on the wall, I can't nor do I wish to get into the photographer's head- what his intentions were, what he was trying to do, what his problems are, how what he ate for lunch effects his work. The critique I offer is from my personal viewpoint. That's all I have. If he had other intentions and finds my critique erroneous from his viewpoint, that's fine too. Neither of us has a monopoly on the Holy Grail.

Speaking of eating, when I dine in a restaurant, the meal is either good or not. I don't know the chef nor do I wish to psychoanalyze him.

 

[AlanKlein]

By the way, a critique is more than liking it or not. It's important to indicate the things that work and do not work and how to improve the latter.

 

[Designer]

To further confuse the issue, I've noticed that most newbies don't change that setting from the default. So practically all the newbies' profiles have the red one.

So does that mean that mostly newbies and a few others don't want anybody to mess with their stuff?

("Lighten up, Francis!")

 

[The_Traveler]

When my children were little, they were so proud when they pooped in a potty chair and they'd drag me or their mother to show it off.
They almost couldn't bear to flush it away but certainly insisted that only they could pull the lever on the toilet.

I see many similarities here.

 

[sashbar]

When my children were little, they were so proud when they pooped in a potty chair and they'd drag me or their mother to show it off.
They almost couldn't bear to flush it away but certainly insisted that only they could pull the lever on the toilet.

I see many similarities here.

Yes, but children are lucky - eventually they learn how to pee. Or p-p. When elders start to misfire, they never learn again.

 

[bribrius]

bet you wish you could edit this...

:lmao:

Sigh ... Still don't get it, do you?

No, I don't wish I could edit that. First, if I want to edit something I have in excess of 70,000 images of my own I can edit any time I want to.

Second, if I were to edit it then it would simply be to try and show what is wrong with it to help YOU. I get nothing from the effort.

Third, how do you know I didn't? I could save it and edit it all I want. If I am to abide by your No Edit stipulation I just wouldn't post it back.

joking.. joking.. geez.
okay, guess it wasn't funny.

 

[robbins.photo]

OMG!! I'm so sorry!! That was meant for another forum!! I have 2 windows with forums open and got mixed up!!! So Sorry!!!!!

Really? Because honestly I thought it was one of the most insightful things written on the topic to this point.. lol

 

[robbins.photo]

To further confuse the issue, I've noticed that most newbies don't change that setting from the default. So practically all the newbies' profiles have the red one.

So does that mean that mostly newbies and a few others don't want anybody to mess with their stuff?

("Lighten up, Francis!")

I guess my thought is if the person asking for help is relatively new I'd probably just ask them, hey, is this ok to edit so I can show you what I mean? My only point is that it's probably wrong to assume that they are arrogant/parnaoid/etc/etc because frankly most of them might not have any idea where that setting is or what it's really used for, nor how to change it.

If they say no, I don't want my photos edited, feel free to move on - no harm done.

 

[table1349]

One of the other issues I often see with people asking for a critique of their work, they either don't know what they were trying to accomplish or capture or don't bother to express what they were trying to do or what they find good or bad and/or what it is they are wanting others to critique.

Just putting up an image and saying what do you think or give me come C&C is pretty useless without some background to work with from the photographer. Lew may love a photo, manaheim may hate the same photo and I may be lukewarm or we may have any combination of the above, all for different reasons because we all have our own opinions, likes and dislikes. To me critiquing a photo is as much about the photographer and what they were wanting to accomplish as anything else. There is no right or wrong to an image, only those things we like and don't like. Some are pretty universal and some not so much. If a photographer wants to get they must be willing to give as well.

A picture has to stand on it's own. As the viewer, looking at a picture on the wall, I can't nor do I wish to get into the photographer's head- what his intentions were, what he was trying to do, what his problems are, how what he ate for lunch effects his work. The critique I offer is from my personal viewpoint. That's all I have. If he had other intentions and finds my critique erroneous from his viewpoint, that's fine too. Neither of us has a monopoly on the Holy Grail.

Speaking of eating, when I dine in a restaurant, the meal is either good or not. I don't know the chef nor do I wish to psychoanalyze him.

That's all well and good when judging a photograph, however when trying to assist or teach a photograper their goal for that photgraph and the area they are wanting help with is very important. If someone is wanting help with spelling, talking about math isn't what they are looking for.

 

[rexbobcat]

A picture has to stand on it's own. As the viewer, looking at a picture on the wall, I can't nor do I wish to get into the photographer's head- what his intentions were, what he was trying to do, what his problems are, how what he ate for lunch effects his work. The critique I offer is from my personal viewpoint. That's all I have. If he had other intentions and finds my critique erroneous from his viewpoint, that's fine too. Neither of us has a monopoly on the Holy Grail. Speaking of eating, when I dine in a restaurant, the meal is either good or not. I don't know the chef nor do I wish to psychoanalyze him.

Well that rules out a lot of photojournalism since many of those photos are powerful because of context.

 

[bribrius]

A picture has to stand on it's own. As the viewer, looking at a picture on the wall, I can't nor do I wish to get into the photographer's head- what his intentions were, what he was trying to do, what his problems are, how what he ate for lunch effects his work. The critique I offer is from my personal viewpoint. That's all I have. If he had other intentions and finds my critique erroneous from his viewpoint, that's fine too. Neither of us has a monopoly on the Holy Grail. Speaking of eating, when I dine in a restaurant, the meal is either good or not. I don't know the chef nor do I wish to psychoanalyze him.

Well that rules out a lot of photojournalism since many of those photos are powerful because of context.

i'd say more than photojournalism in many cases. When you are looking at a themed showing of multiple photographs and they have a long explanation of the artist, the theme and its purpose, and the photographs I wouldn't say it is standing on its own. When they give a stand up presentation orally explanation with history behind the work it really isn't standing on its own.

 

[limr]

Who said anything about psychoanalysis anyway?

 

[Designer]

i'd say more than photojournalism in many cases. When you are looking at a themed showing of multiple photographs and they have a long explanation of the artist, the theme and its purpose, and the photographs I wouldn't say it is standing on its own. When they give a stand up presentation orally explanation with history behind the work it really isn't standing on its own.

From my perspective, I prefer some back story. As much relevant information about what I'm looking at as I can get. Yes, it helps me understand the work. I don't mean a novelette, but something about the photographer's intention helps me decide whether he or she succeeded or not.

I learned in design school that the designer's intent and some history of the process would invariably aid in understanding why something looks the way it does. Photography is sometimes the same, but not every photograph was planned from inception.