"My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit"

[bribrius]

One of the other issues I often see with people asking for a critique of their work, they either don't know what they were trying to accomplish or capture or don't bother to express what they were trying to do or what they find good or ban and/or what it is they are wanting others to critique.

Just putting up an image and saying what do you think or give me come C&C is pretty useless without some background to work with from the photographer. Lew may love a photo, manaheim may hate the same photo and I may be lukewarm or we may have any combination of the above, all for different reasons because we all have our own opinions, likes and dislikes. To me critiquing a photo is as much about the photographer and what they were wanting to accomplish as anything else. There is no right or wrong to an image, only those things we like and don't like. Some are pretty universal and some not so much. If a photographer wants to get they must be willing to give as well.

Another good point. Like i just looked at sashbars thread and bit my tongue because i wasn't under the complete understanding of what was going on. Maybe if i look at it for a while i might follow enough to comment. so far i just "liked" them because i do like them. That is a far cry from a legitimate observation. im also very guilty of posting images often i don't even want a critique on. some i do but don't explain what im trying to figure out. It does make it tough to critique, looking at it from the other side. Excellent point really.

 

[manaheim]

Just to bring this back around again...

ALLLLLLLLLLL I'm saying... is if you don't let people edit your photo as a part of their toolset to give you critique, you are both limiting how your critique-ers can help you... AND limiting the number of people who will bother.

You are doing yourself a disservice. Period.

Oh and everyone try to be nice so I don't have to lock my own damned thread.

BTW, Craig for president.

 

[robbins.photo]

Well I can certainly understand why a lot of folks chose not to give critique. It isn't always such a pleasant experience for the person giving the critique, and they often get a lot of - well lets be honest static in return. Worse yet it's not always from the guy who took the photo - it happens on more than one occasion where you get people who dislike what you posted and frankly some of them can get downright nasty about it.

So no, I don't blame anyone for deciding not to post a critique - or those who decide to do so sparingly. I rarely if ever critique anything myself, generally only when it is explicitly asked for, and even then only if I get the impression that it is something I can relay that isn't going to start a big knock down drag out, so I will keep it very short rather than getting detailed.

 

[bribrius]

Just to bring this back around again...

ALLLLLLLLLLL I'm saying... is if you don't let people edit your photo as a part of their toolset to give you critique, you are both limiting how your critique-ers can help you... AND limiting the number of people who will bother.

You are doing yourself a disservice. Period.

Oh and everyone try to be nice so I don't have to lock my own damned thread.

BTW, Craig for president.

oh don't lock it down. This is entertaining. BTW. i don't think i've ever received more than five words critique from you. Least now i know why. you like to edit.

 

[robbins.photo]

Just to bring this back around again...

ALLLLLLLLLLL I'm saying...

Is give reeses pieces a chance?

is if you don't let people edit your photo as a part of their toolset to give you critique, you are both limiting how your critique-ers can help you... AND limiting the number of people who will bother.

Which is true, but I think there might be another issue involved here - it's been a while since I joined but if I remember correctly the edit photos thing defaults to off - you have to turn it on, and I'm not sure a lot of newbies know how. I could be wrong, but if I remember correctly off is the default setting.

You are doing yourself a disservice. Period.

Which seems a little silly seeing as how you can go to Henry's Camera and have them do you a disservice instead.. lol

Oh and everyone try to be nice so I don't have to lock my own damned thread.

Lol.. tempting just for the Irony factor..

 

[table1349]

Just to bring this back around again...

ALLLLLLLLLLL I'm saying... is if you don't let people edit your photo as a part of their toolset to give you critique, you are both limiting how your critique-ers can help you... AND limiting the number of people who will bother.

You are doing yourself a disservice. Period.

Oh and everyone try to be nice so I don't have to lock my own damned thread.

BTW, Craig for president.

There is a simple solution to the problem there Oh Great and Powerful Oz.

Change the rules.

Rule #1. If you are going to post photos and ask for C&C you hereby agree that those providing the C&C permission to edit that photo.

You don't like the rule, don't ask for C&C. Problem solved. Yes I know that there will be those that will not be pleased however....“You can please some of the people some of the time all of the people some of the time some of the people all of the time but you can never please all of the people all of the time.” ― Abraham Lincoln

Granted, Lincoln was only the President of the United States during the bloodiest period in U. S. History, not a Moderator at the Photo Forum, so the stresses of making the change are not nearly the same. But I have faith in you.:thumbup:

Oh yes, one other thing.........are moderators supposed to curse???



Me thinks I feel a bunny thumping coming on.

 

[limr]

Just to bring this back around again...

ALLLLLLLLLLL I'm saying... is if you don't let people edit your photo as a part of their toolset to give you critique, you are both limiting how your critique-ers can help you... AND limiting the number of people who will bother.

You are doing yourself a disservice. Period.

Oh and everyone try to be nice so I don't have to lock my own damned thread.

BTW, Craig for president.

Well then, I will continue to limit myself to people who are willing and able to give me verbal critique. Even if the person was allowed to edit my photo, I would STILL want a verbal explanation of what was done and why, otherwise that edit would be of very limited use to me, and THAT would be a disservice to both me (who didn't learn much) and the commenter (who wasted his or her effort on an edit that was not as useful to me as a verbal explanation.)

 

[bribrius]

you know i still haven't had a response to post #22? says a lot right there. Really people, don't bother. And you wonder why i don't give a **** what anyone thinks...:waiting:

 

[runnah]

you know i still haven't had a response to post #22? says a lot right there. Really people, don't bother. And you wonder why i don't give a **** what anyone thinks...:waiting:

Ok I will help

To be fair I haven't paid attention here.

 

[limr]

Actually, if anyone is looking for something to edit with a purpose. i was asked to provide a photo for a non profit organization of a woman very close to me they are writing something about. And all i have is a snapshot of her. which needs a lot of work and the processing is out of my league knowledge and software wise. i think they want it by the end of the month. All i have is a couple snapshots with horrid backgrounds. i don't have her permission to post her photo online, so i haven't posted it. She is a cancer survivor and it is a cancer organization they are writing something about her and its going in some kind of periodical or something. Her main concern is she looks old which i don't know how to fix. which she is elderly. It doesn't have to be a perfect portfolio shot just "decent"

I would start a new thread for this. You could ask for some examples of before/after photos that have been edited to make someone look younger. It doesn't even reach the issue of whether or not someone would be allowed to edit that photo because we aren't even able to SEE that photo. The only thing anyone could do would be to suggest certain functions in software or, as I said, show examples of their own work.

 

[table1349]

Actually, if anyone is looking for something to edit with a purpose. i was asked to provide a photo for a non profit organization of a woman very close to me they are writing something about. And all i have is a snapshot of her. which needs a lot of work and the processing is out of my league knowledge and software wise. i think they want it by the end of the month. All i have is a couple snapshots with horrid backgrounds. i don't have her permission to post her photo online, so i haven't posted it. She is a cancer survivor and it is a cancer organization they are writing something about her and its going in some kind of periodical or something. Her main concern is she looks old which i don't know how to fix. which she is elderly. It doesn't have to be a perfect portfolio shot just "decent"

I would start a new thread for this. You could ask for some examples of before/after photos that have been edited to make someone look younger. It doesn't even reach the issue of whether or not someone would be allowed to edit that photo because we aren't even able to SEE that photo. The only thing anyone could do would be to suggest certain functions in software or, as I said, show examples of their own work.

No that would not work. Look at his sig. It says.... and I quote..."My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit" End of story.

 

[limr]

Actually, if anyone is looking for something to edit with a purpose. i was asked to provide a photo for a non profit organization of a woman very close to me they are writing something about. And all i have is a snapshot of her. which needs a lot of work and the processing is out of my league knowledge and software wise. i think they want it by the end of the month. All i have is a couple snapshots with horrid backgrounds. i don't have her permission to post her photo online, so i haven't posted it. She is a cancer survivor and it is a cancer organization they are writing something about her and its going in some kind of periodical or something. Her main concern is she looks old which i don't know how to fix. which she is elderly. It doesn't have to be a perfect portfolio shot just "decent"

Actually, if anyone is looking for something to edit with a purpose. i was asked to provide a photo for a non profit organization of a woman very close to me they are writing something about. And all i have is a snapshot of her. which needs a lot of work and the processing is out of my league knowledge and software wise. i think they want it by the end of the month. All i have is a couple snapshots with horrid backgrounds. i don't have her permission to post her photo online, so i haven't posted it. She is a cancer survivor and it is a cancer organization they are writing something about her and its going in some kind of periodical or something. Her main concern is she looks old which i don't know how to fix. which she is elderly. It doesn't have to be a perfect portfolio shot just "decent"

I would start a new thread for this. You could ask for some examples of before/after photos that have been edited to make someone look younger. It doesn't even reach the issue of whether or not someone would be allowed to edit that photo because we aren't even able to SEE that photo. The only thing anyone could do would be to suggest certain functions in software or, as I said, show examples of their own work.

No that would not work. Look at his sig. It says.... and I quote..."My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit" End of story.

It's a moot point, actually.

 

[The_Traveler]

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BTW, Craig for president.

Well then, I will continue to limit myself to people who are willing and able to give me verbal critique. Even if the person was allowed to edit my photo, I would STILL want a verbal explanation of what was done and why, otherwise that edit would be of very limited use to me, and THAT would be a disservice to both me (who didn't learn much) and the commenter (who wasted his or her effort on an edit that was not as useful to me as a verbal explanation.)

or alternatively, in gratitude to those who take the time to respond, you could allow them to answer in the way they are most comfortable and then, if you don't understand, either say so or go on.

 

[table1349]

Actually, if anyone is looking for something to edit with a purpose. i was asked to provide a photo for a non profit organization of a woman very close to me they are writing something about. And all i have is a snapshot of her. which needs a lot of work and the processing is out of my league knowledge and software wise. i think they want it by the end of the month. All i have is a couple snapshots with horrid backgrounds. i don't have her permission to post her photo online, so i haven't posted it. She is a cancer survivor and it is a cancer organization they are writing something about her and its going in some kind of periodical or something. Her main concern is she looks old which i don't know how to fix. which she is elderly. It doesn't have to be a perfect portfolio shot just "decent"

I would start a new thread for this. You could ask for some examples of before/after photos that have been edited to make someone look younger. It doesn't even reach the issue of whether or not someone would be allowed to edit that photo because we aren't even able to SEE that photo. The only thing anyone could do would be to suggest certain functions in software or, as I said, show examples of their own work.

No that would not work. Look at his sig. It says.... and I quote..."My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit" End of story.

It's a moot point, actually.

Who's Moot and when did he join the conversation?

 

[limr]

Moot is president, haven't you heard?