"My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit"

[limr]

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BTW, Craig for president.

Well then, I will continue to limit myself to people who are willing and able to give me verbal critique. Even if the person was allowed to edit my photo, I would STILL want a verbal explanation of what was done and why, otherwise that edit would be of very limited use to me, and THAT would be a disservice to both me (who didn't learn much) and the commenter (who wasted his or her effort on an edit that was not as useful to me as a verbal explanation.)

or alternatively, in gratitude to those who take the time to respond, you could allow them to answer in the way they are most comfortable and then, if you don't understand, either say so or go on.

If they are comfortable giving me a verbal response, then that's what they will do and I will be grateful. If they prefer to show me an edit, then they can ask me for it and I can decide if it will be useful to me or not. If the edit is done, I'll be grateful for it. If I want an edit to begin with, I'll ask for it specifically from the start, giving blanket permission to anyone to edit that photo, and I will be grateful for any response.

The fact remains, however, that 1) I might not even be asking for feedback that requires an edit (i.e. How does this hit you? Which do you like better? Does this photo convey a message, or what do you get out of it?), and 2) an unbidden edit might not be as useful as the editor might think it is.

Again, I need to stress that I DO think that this kind of feedback can be useful, but I do NOT understand what's wrong with not wanting to give carte blanche to anyone at any time to do whatever they want to my photos.

 

[bribrius]

Actually, if anyone is looking for something to edit with a purpose. i was asked to provide a photo for a non profit organization of a woman very close to me they are writing something about. And all i have is a snapshot of her. which needs a lot of work and the processing is out of my league knowledge and software wise. i think they want it by the end of the month. All i have is a couple snapshots with horrid backgrounds. i don't have her permission to post her photo online, so i haven't posted it. She is a cancer survivor and it is a cancer organization they are writing something about her and its going in some kind of periodical or something. Her main concern is she looks old which i don't know how to fix. which she is elderly. It doesn't have to be a perfect portfolio shot just "decent"

I would start a new thread for this. You could ask for some examples of before/after photos that have been edited to make someone look younger. It doesn't even reach the issue of whether or not someone would be allowed to edit that photo because we aren't even able to SEE that photo. The only thing anyone could do would be to suggest certain functions in software or, as I said, show examples of their own work.

No that would not work. Look at his sig. It says.... and I quote..."My Photos Are NOT OK to Edit" End of story.

not for lew. Read back through. He edits peoples photos anyway and then wonders why they get upset.

 

[bribrius]

you know i still haven't had a response to post #22? says a lot right there. Really people, don't bother. And you wonder why i don't give a **** what anyone thinks...:waiting:

Ok I will help

To be fair I haven't paid attention here.

pm sent

 

[manaheim]

Just to bring this back around again...

ALLLLLLLLLLL I'm saying... is if you don't let people edit your photo as a part of their toolset to give you critique, you are both limiting how your critique-ers can help you... AND limiting the number of people who will bother.

You are doing yourself a disservice. Period.

Oh and everyone try to be nice so I don't have to lock my own damned thread.

BTW, Craig for president.

oh don't lock it down. This is entertaining. BTW. i don't think i've ever received more than five words critique from you. Least now i know why. you like to edit.

Hold up, there cowboy. I'm only on here about an hour a day... total. There's about 8 trillion threads a day in this place. The mere fact that you hear from me EVER is pretty astonishing, from a pure statistics standpoint alone. AND I'd like to point out that you DO hear from me. I don't comment on every photo I see... namely because some things... and some people... are far beyond any help I can provide... edited picture or no.

Just to bring this back around again...

ALLLLLLLLLLL I'm saying... is if you don't let people edit your photo as a part of their toolset to give you critique, you are both limiting how your critique-ers can help you... AND limiting the number of people who will bother.

You are doing yourself a disservice. Period.

Oh and everyone try to be nice so I don't have to lock my own damned thread.

BTW, Craig for president.

There is a simple solution to the problem there Oh Great and Powerful Oz.

Change the rules.

Rule #1. If you are going to post photos and ask for C&C you hereby agree that those providing the C&C permission to edit that photo.

You don't like the rule, don't ask for C&C. Problem solved. Yes I know that there will be those that will not be pleased however....“You can please some of the people some of the time all of the people some of the time some of the people all of the time but you can never please all of the people all of the time.” ― Abraham Lincoln

Granted, Lincoln was only the President of the United States during the bloodiest period in U. S. History, not a Moderator at the Photo Forum, so the stresses of making the change are not nearly the same. But I have faith in you.:thumbup:

Oh yes, one other thing.........are moderators supposed to curse???

Me thinks I feel a bunny thumping coming on.

**** no.

Changing the rules seems like a nice idea, but anytime you try to change something like that the world will go into a total uproar. In THEORY it's easier to try to educate people and work to swing the culture... however, we can see how effective THAT little ploy has been.

Just to bring this back around again...

ALLLLLLLLLLL I'm saying... is if you don't let people edit your photo as a part of their toolset to give you critique, you are both limiting how your critique-ers can help you... AND limiting the number of people who will bother.

You are doing yourself a disservice. Period.

Oh and everyone try to be nice so I don't have to lock my own damned thread.

BTW, Craig for president.

Well then, I will continue to limit myself to people who are willing and able to give me verbal critique. Even if the person was allowed to edit my photo, I would STILL want a verbal explanation of what was done and why, otherwise that edit would be of very limited use to me, and THAT would be a disservice to both me (who didn't learn much) and the commenter (who wasted his or her effort on an edit that was not as useful to me as a verbal explanation.)

I always give one with my edits.

The picture just makes it so I can do it in 20 words instead of 200.

I also find it funny that you think you can choose who gives you critique.


Ahhhhhhhhhhhh... the humor factor of all you hyper-controlling people. And if you knew me really well, you would know how steeped in irony that statement truly was.



Ok, I'm done... I tried. Do whatever makes you happy. Good luck!



Oh and bribrius... I have no idea what #22 is, and I ain't gonna go look.

 

[CdTSnap]

I love apples...

 

[manaheim]

I like turtles.

 

[table1349]

Moot is president, haven't you heard?

Wait, what happened to Craig???

 

[limr]

I always give one with my edits.

The picture just makes it so I can do it in 20 words instead of 200.

I also find it funny that you think you can choose who gives you critique.

I never said I could. I suggested that people giving critique would self-select - which they already do, permission to edit or no. If I don't allow editing and someone likes to edit, then that person won't comment on my photo.

Ok, I'm done... I tried. Do whatever makes you happy. Good luck!

Isn't that the point?

 

[bribrius]

Just to bring this back around again...

ALLLLLLLLLLL I'm saying... is if you don't let people edit your photo as a part of their toolset to give you critique, you are both limiting how your critique-ers can help you... AND limiting the number of people who will bother.

You are doing yourself a disservice. Period.

Oh and everyone try to be nice so I don't have to lock my own damned thread.

BTW, Craig for president.

oh don't lock it down. This is entertaining. BTW. i don't think i've ever received more than five words critique from you. Least now i know why. you like to edit.

Hold up, there cowboy. I'm only on here about an hour a day... total. There's about 8 trillion threads a day in this place. The mere fact that you hear from me EVER is pretty astonishing, from a pure statistics standpoint alone. AND I'd like to point out that you DO hear from me. I don't comment on every photo I see... namely because some things... and some people... are far beyond any help I can provide... edited picture or no.



**** no.

Changing the rules seems like a nice idea, but anytime you try to change something like that the world will go into a total uproar. In THEORY it's easier to try to educate people and work to swing the culture... however, we can see how effective THAT little ploy has been.

Just to bring this back around again...

ALLLLLLLLLLL I'm saying... is if you don't let people edit your photo as a part of their toolset to give you critique, you are both limiting how your critique-ers can help you... AND limiting the number of people who will bother.

You are doing yourself a disservice. Period.

Oh and everyone try to be nice so I don't have to lock my own damned thread.

BTW, Craig for president.

Well then, I will continue to limit myself to people who are willing and able to give me verbal critique. Even if the person was allowed to edit my photo, I would STILL want a verbal explanation of what was done and why, otherwise that edit would be of very limited use to me, and THAT would be a disservice to both me (who didn't learn much) and the commenter (who wasted his or her effort on an edit that was not as useful to me as a verbal explanation.)

I always give one with my edits.

The picture just makes it so I can do it in 20 words instead of 200.

I also find it funny that you think you can choose who gives you critique.


Ahhhhhhhhhhhh... the humor factor of all you hyper-controlling people. And if you knew me really well, you would know how steeped in irony that statement truly was.



Ok, I'm done... I tried. Do whatever makes you happy. Good luck!



Oh and bribrius... I have no idea what #22 is, and I ain't gonna go look.

that would be a handy option. can we put some settings in for that?

 

[snerd]

Frog went a-courtin' and he did ride, uh-huh
Frog went a-courtin' and he did ride, uh-huh
Frog went a-courtin' and he did ride
With a sword and a pistol by his side, uh-huh.

Well he rode right up to Miss Mousey's door, uh-huh
He rode right up to Miss Mousey's door, uh-huh
He rode right up to Miss Mousey's door
Gave three loud raps and a very big roar, uh-huh.

Said, "Miss Mouse, are you within ?" uh-huh
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He took Miss Mousey on his knee, uh-huh
Took Miss Mousey on his knee, uh-huh
Took Miss Mousey on his knee
Said, "Miss Mousey, will you marry me ?" uh-huh.

"Without my uncle Rat's consent, uh-huh
Without my uncle Rat's consent, uh-huh
Without my uncle Rat's consent
I wouldn't marry the president, uh-huh".

Uncle Rat laughed and he shook his fat sides, uh-huh
Uncle Rat laughed and he shook his fat sides, uh-huh
Uncle Rat laughed and he shook his fat sides
To think his niece would be a bride, uh-huh.

Uncle rat went runnin' downtown, uh-huh
Uncle rat went runnin' downtown, uh-huh
Uncle rat went runnin' downtown
To buy his niece a wedding gown, uh-huh.

Where shall the wedding supper be ? uh-huh
Where shall the wedding supper be ? uh-huh
Where shall the wedding supper be ?
Way down yonder in a hollow tree, uh-huh.

What should the wedding supper be ? uh-huh
What should the wedding supper be ? uh-huh
What should the wedding supper be ?
Fried mosquito in a black-eyed pea, uh-huh.
Well, first to come in was a flyin' moth, uh-huh.
First to come in was a flyin' moth, uh-huh.
First to come in was a flyin' moth
She laid out the table cloth, uh-huh.

Next to come in was a juney bug, uh-huh
Next to come in was a juney bug, uh-huh
Next to come in was a juney bug
She brought the water jug, uh-huh.

Next to come in was a bumbley bee, uh-huh
Next to come in was a bumbley bee, uh-huh
Next to come in was a bumbley bee
Sat mosquito on his knee, uh-huh.

Next to come in was a broken black flea, uh-huh
Next to come in was a broken black flea, uh-huh
Next to come in was a broken black flea
Danced a jig with the bumbley bee, uh-huh.

Next to come in was Mrs. Cow, uh-huh
Next to come in was Mrs. Cow, uh-huh
Next to come in was Mrs. Cow
She tried to dance but she didn't know how, uh-huh.

Next to come in was a little black tick, uh-huh
Next to come in was a little black tick, uh-huh
Next to come in was a little black tick
She ate so much she made us sick, uh-huh.

Next to come in was a big black snake, uh-huh
Next to come in was a big black snake, uh-huh
Next to come in was a big black snake
Ate up all of the wedding cake, uh-huh.

Next to come in was the old gray cat, uh-huh
Next to come in was the old gray cat, uh-huh
Next to come in was the old gray cat
Swallowed the mouse and ate up the rat, uh-huh.Mr.
Frog went a-hoppin' up over the brook, uh-huh
Mr. Frog went a-hoppin' up over the brook, uh-huh
Mr. Frog went a-hoppin' up over the brook
A lily-whit duck come and swallowed him up, uh-huh.

A little piece of cornbread layin' on a shelf, uh-huh
A little piece of cornbread layin' on a shelf, uh-huh
A little piece of cornbread layin' on a shelf
If you want any more, you can sing it yourself, uh-huh.


Thank you! Thank you very much!!


:lmao: :mrgreen:

 

[snerd]

OMG!! I'm so sorry!! That was meant for another forum!! I have 2 windows with forums open and got mixed up!!! So Sorry!!!!!

 

[vintagesnaps]

Carte blanche to anyone - that's what the issue could be as far as setting for it to be OK for others to edit or not. And Manaheim aren't you somewhat doing the same type thing you're bringing up? - it sounds like you want to critique the way you want, to edit someone's photo, but that may not be what someone wants to allow others to do on a site that's publicly viewable. So critique the way you want, and if that means editing someone's photo for them and they don't have their profile set to allow that, then you don't have to critique it and could instead move on to posts by those who want their photos edited.


Snerd what were you doing by the time I got back on here?? LOL Thanks now I'll probably get that song stuck in my head.

 

[limr]

OMG!! I'm so sorry!! That was meant for another forum!! I have 2 windows with forums open and got mixed up!!! So Sorry!!!!!

Meh, who can even tell anymore?

 

[BillM]

Do we need permission to edit the lyrics ?

 

[snerd]

Do we need permission to edit the lyrics ?

Thanks for asking LOL!!!

Dylan probably would frown on it. I posted his version of it. And he says you reviewers can be a pain in the arse sometimes.