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maybe we could add "leave your friendships at the door" in the critique section? while people obviously feel differently about the level of tact that should be used in critiquing someones work i think we can agree that people may hear something they don't want to hear in the critique forum.

bottom line: if your too sensitive to really get ragged on maybe you should keep your stuff out of the critique forum? or at least keep your mouth shut about what someone had to say if you can't respond in a mature manner.
 
Who me roflmfao......

While we are at it how about posting in this forum means all images are OTE.

I'll vote for yours if you vote for mine. lol
 
and lets also remember , as you say, BOTTOM LINE...

"" bottom line: if your too sensitive to really get ragged on maybe you should keep your stuff out of the critique forum? or at least keep your mouth shut about what someone had to say if you can't respond in a mature manner ""

your quote above , should mention, CRITIQUE IN A MATURE MANNER !!

I think thats the key!
 
Yes I think its great. Lets open the way for everyone to leave their tact at the door so they can practice being the offensive, crude overbearing and judgmental tough guy they can't be in person.

When really thats ridiculous for them to go about it that way when all you would have to do is just ask them and they would be more than happy to tell you just how super fantastic they are without having to demean and belittle the efforts of everyone else to make themselves feel like professionals.

There are ways of offering helpful critique without being an a*****e
 
You know, Mike, there is critique in the form that motcom offers from time to time, and critique in the form of tossing out "this is a mere snapshot, no more".

While both may be honest in what they think, the one definitely expresses himself better than the other.

And friendship or no friendship, this forum is supposed to be a community of people who are interested in the same thing: photography. And within any community everyone should observe those things that make it work. Even with "friendship to be left at the door" it will only work if people use that modicum of tact and fair play that makes large groups not start to fight each other.

It could be so easy, actually, and they could still give some good, honest, in-depth critique, more in depth than stating that to them a photo looks like a mere snapshot. For example.
 
Mere snapshot. I spend hours making some of my images look like mere snapshots from the past lol.... See even with the best of intensions one can be offensive. We ALL need to just lighten up no matter what they say or how they say it, it's still just one person's opinion. I don't agree with my critiques either but what the heck they are throwing words not hand grenaids.
 
Mere snapshot. I spend hours making some of my images look like mere snapshots from the past lol.... See even with the best of intensions one can be offensive.

Content and manner are independent. One's ideas or opinions may be offensive because of their content but each of us has a responsibility to the community to attempt not to be offensive by the way we choose to say things.
 
I think there is as much critique in the galleries as there is in the critique forum.

just in the galleries you can post more than one image per post, and you do not need to have a specific question


but I could not find much difference between critique and galleries ... does it mean no friendship in the galleries either? :-P

ok, so be it, I hate you all :-P ... or at least will pretend to :-P
 
maybe we could add "leave your friendships at the door" in the critique section?

Sorry man I don't buy this for a second. I've seen too many critiques where the "critique" is just some d**khead comment without any real advice. Then the person pulls out the "Don't be too sensitive" card. People wave that reasoning around like it's a Get Out Of Jail Free card for being rude. If the person providing the critique is so intelligent they can surely spend the 2 seconds it takes to politely say their piece.

Such little effort it takes to be nice to people yet some are still too lazy or arrogant to care.
 
If you read accounts of critiques given by the great modern masters of photography, they have two distinct styles. One is extraordinarily brief, harsh criticism. The other is silence, or a form thereof. When shown a piece they don't like, they'll respond simply by looking and nodding, but not saying anything. Alternately, you might show a piece and get "I like this expression here..." but even with the best of work you wont get much more than "I think you can do something with this."
 
Sorry man I don't buy this for a second. I've seen too many critiques where the "critique" is just some d**khead comment without any real advice. Then the person pulls out the "Don't be too sensitive" card. People wave that reasoning around like it's a Get Out Of Jail Free card for being rude. If the person providing the critique is so intelligent they can surely spend the 2 seconds it takes to politely say their piece.

Such little effort it takes to be nice to people yet some are still too lazy or arrogant to care.


I agree 100 %.






pascal
 
See even with the best of intensions one can be offensive. We ALL need to just lighten up no matter what they say or how they say it, it's still just one person's opinion.


I agree here with its just someone else's opinion. I was raised up by the old saying

" Opinions are like buttholes, everyone has one, and most of the time they stink. "
 

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