Nikon D5100 problems

[MTVision]

And the one at the window , there was a light on the ceiling also.

Megan , I'm just talking about the sharpness
And I wasn't the only one who noticed something wrong with it , otherwise the guy at the shop wouldn't told me to send it back
So I could totally understand that i dont understand anything about it , but on auto it isn't better.
You say it never will take a good picture on auto, in the shop they tell me it produces great images even if you dont know a thing.

And what about this one ?

exif : 1/5 shutter , iso 1200 , f 5.6

Focus and exposure play a role in ISO. High iso does t usually equal a sharp image. Handholding at 1/30 will not make a sharp photo. Using af-a in auto doesn't let you choose your focal points so the camera chooses what to focus on. You also need good light to get good focus.

Just because you have a ceiling light and are near a window doesn't mean it's good light. To the average person auto can take excellent pictures but they also aren't pixel peeping like you. You are examining every little aspect of the picture which most people won't do. And you aren't going to get great pictures in tricky lighting situations on auto.

Any camera can take decent pictures on auto - in the right situation. It's not really any different then a point and shoot in auto - you might get some great photos and you might not. It's all about the light. Cameras aren't great in low light (inside your house).

And they didn't really do anything to your camera. They sent it out to get it looked at. They cleaned the sensor - it probably wasn't the issue. They adjusted some parameters - it didn't fix anything since your back asking the same questions.

Not try to be a ***** but your asking the same questions that were answered by a bunch of people already.

 

[MTVision]

And for something else :
why , if i change my lightning (to make it more dark or bright) , it doesnt change at all ?
If i put it to +5 it stays the same as i would do nothing
(and i mean changing the settings on the camera before taking the picture)

If this is a stupid question , please say so and tell me how I should do it (right)
Thank you

The person at the store, from what you wrote, said your camera focused slower and metered differently. Maybe the cameras meter was off a little bit - I'm sure its not a unique issue. You can't really determine sharpness until its on the computer. If the camera got sent out and was fixed, yet your having the same issue doesn't it make sense that is either user error or that your trying to get great quality photos in poor lighting.

The +5 thing - are you talking about exposure compensation? If so, it's not changing your lighting at all - its just going to make the picture brighter or darker.

 

[marcdax]

The +5 thing - are you talking about exposure compensation? If so, it's not changing your lighting at all - its just going to make the picture brighter or darker.

Yes , you would see that on the screen of the camera wouldn't you ?
My question is :
I take a picture with brightness at 0 , I take a picture with brightness + 5.
Normally the last one should look (very) bright , no ?
So why is it , if I look at my screen (of the camera) they both look the same ?

And no , i can understand , you're not being a b$tch

 

[marcdax]

If the camera got sent out and was fixed, yet your having the same issue doesn't it make sense that is either user error or that your trying to get great quality photos in poor lighting.

It's not just inside
error do I make ? Just tell me this .... !
If I put my f on F/5.6 , set my ISO to 800 and get a 1/50 shutter , members say I'm crazy to put my Iso so high. And that is when my meter is on 0.
If i put my Shutter on F1/125 to get F/5 and iso 1000 the same again.

don't 't mean to be a pain in the b*** , but honestly , I tried everything people said and nothing works and still I get "it's my fault".
If i set Iso myself , I'm to high. If I follow the advice to put it on auto , I'm to high.

Give me a break for not knowing what to do anymore.

 

[marcdax]

So , I know that you can't compare it for 100% , but lets say clouded is clouded .
On this picture you can see it's very clouded , would you agree ?
http://500px.com/photo/2913221
exif : F8 , iso 100 , s1/250

Could you say this is equally comparable ?
exif : 1/80 s , f 3.6 iso 400
Took the same one on Iso 200 and my shutter was 1/30 on F/4

if I understand correctly , to get my shutter higher , I have to lower my F/... number (which couldn't) go lower or set my Iso higher.
So my only question is :
If someone else his Iso can be low and still take the picture with a good shutterspeed , why doesn't mine ? Even if I set my F wide open (as can be at that moment)

 

[marcdax]

And please give me the difference here :
Maybe with resizing you don't see the difference in sharpness that good, but just the exif data.
Tell me what you think

exif : 1/80 shutter , 400 iso , f3.6

exif : s1/125 , iso 100 , F/5

So , simular day(s) , same place.
Why is the second one sharp ? has a lower iso ? Less F (so less light comes in) ?

 

[MTVision]

And please give me the difference here :
Maybe with resizing you don't see the difference in sharpness that good, but just the exif data.
Tell me what you think

exif : 1/80 shutter , 400 iso , f3.6

exif : s1/125 , iso 100 , F/5

So , simular day(s) , same place.
Why is the second one sharp ? has a lower iso ? Less F (so less light comes in) ?

They aren't comparable.

Similar days - not the same day. Lighting varies from day to day, hour to hour. Your aren't standing it the same place. Your shutter speed is faster so your picture is probably sharper due to that. It also depends where you/your camera chose to focus. I'm not sure what to tell you that hasn't already been said. If you are convinced your camera/lens is faulty then call Nikon - you have a warranty (or should).

 

[EchoingWhisper]

Okay dude, before you talk about sharp or not sharp - read about Exposure, then read about Focus (focusing for macro/hyperfocal distance), then read about Composition. They will help you learn photography yourself.

 

[marcdax]

Yes , you would see that on the screen of the camera wouldn't you ?
My question is :
I take a picture with brightness at 0 , I take a picture with brightness + 5.
Normally the last one should look (very) bright , no ?
So why is it , if I look at my screen (of the camera) they both look the same ?

And no , i can understand , you're not being a b$tch

Can anyone give me an answer on this ?

If I put my f on F/5.6 , set my ISO to 800 and get a 1/50 shutter , members say I'm crazy to put my Iso so high. And that is when my meter is on 0.
If i put my Shutter on F1/125 to get F/5 and iso 1000 the same again.
If i set Iso myself , I'm to high. If I follow the advice to put it on auto , I'm to high.

And what about this one ?
If you all told me and i understand :
to get my shutter up , i have to open my aparture (so lower n°) or put my ISo a step higher.
So if F/5 is my highest number , normally I should put it at F5.6 to be sure , so if I get :
F/5.6 , s 1/50 and Iso 400
I have to raise my Iso to get a faster shutter or to get my lightmeter in the middle.
So if i set it to F5.6 / 1/100 and Iso 800
you all say I'm crazy and that it probably should be at 400 max

So just forget the rest , give me te faults I make in this example........

 

[EchoingWhisper]

No. Put up any ISO you want, as long as you understand exposure.

 

[o hey tyler]

This has turned into 5 pages of repeated failures. Have you read the entire manual twice?

Do you understand that your shutter speed needs to be 1/focal length?

Sometimes you NEED to turn your ISO up to get an acceptable shutter speed. It happens. Everyone does it.

The settings you used in this post: http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/nikon/264004-nikon-d5100-problems-5.html#post2423428 were absolutely fine. Your shutter speed was high enough. You just need to go out and experiment with your camera and learn why it does certain things, rather than over analyze every shutter actuation you make. MTVision has been very patient with you, but she's basically been going around in circles trying to get you to understand the same fundamental concepts.

I really strongly suggest you go out, take photos and focus on composition. If the photos become soft, perhaps your shutter speed is too slow? If they become dark, perhaps you need to turn up your ISO? Bring the manual, as it's a good reference. I would not suggest going out very late in the day when the sun might be setting because then your lighting will change much more rapidly, and I don't think you can compensate at this point.

When you go out to shoot though, in the daylight. MOST TIMES you can go out, set your camera up in manual on the LOWEST ISO while still maintaining at least a 1/focal length shutter speed. You shouldn't have to change your settings on every shot. But you can always MICRO adjust if you see the meter start to fluctuate too far from 0.

 

[JohnYoga]

Hello Folks,

This has been a very informative thread for me, a newbie.

I just bought the D5100 with the "stock" lens. I usually keep everything on auto, and the pictures look beautiful (indoors and outdoors). I bought the SB400 speed light and either diffuse it with a cap, or point the light to the ceiling to spray additional light, when needed. I also am prone to use Single-Point AF, and, at times, go to "P" and change the white balance to suit the lighting. I have also found the SCENE position and the knob scene positions to be great.

In some of your pictures shown, Marc, perhaps the "issues" would have been solved by leaving the camera on auto, or flipping through some of the scene presets + spray additional light on the subject (those close-up shots)?

Marc, these folks on this thread have been awesome. Sit back and appreciate the time they have put into your questions. I know where to go when I have questions! Thanks folks!

Regards,

John

 

[EchoingWhisper]

Hello Folks,

This has been a very informative thread for me, a newbie.

I just bought the D5100 with the "stock" lens. I usually keep everything on auto, and the pictures look beautiful (indoors and outdoors). I bought the SB400 speed light and either diffuse it with a cap, or point the light to the ceiling to spray additional light, when needed. I also am prone to use Single-Point AF, and, at times, go to "P" and change the white balance to suit the lighting. I have also found the SCENE position and the knob scene positions to be great.

In some of your pictures shown, Marc, perhaps the "issues" would have been solved by leaving the camera on auto, or flipping through some of the scene presets + spray additional light on the subject (those close-up shots)?

Marc, these folks on this thread have been awesome. Sit back and appreciate the time they have put into your questions. I know where to go when I have questions! Thanks folks!

Regards,

John

Yes, everything will be great in auto, but you'll never learn a thing. I have never seen a professional go on full auto.

 

[JohnYoga]

Hello Folks,

This has been a very informative thread for me, a newbie.

I just bought the D5100 with the "stock" lens. I usually keep everything on auto, and the pictures look beautiful (indoors and outdoors). I bought the SB400 speed light and either diffuse it with a cap, or point the light to the ceiling to spray additional light, when needed. I also am prone to use Single-Point AF, and, at times, go to "P" and change the white balance to suit the lighting. I have also found the SCENE position and the knob scene positions to be great.

In some of your pictures shown, Marc, perhaps the "issues" would have been solved by leaving the camera on auto, or flipping through some of the scene presets + spray additional light on the subject (those close-up shots)?

Marc, these folks on this thread have been awesome. Sit back and appreciate the time they have put into your questions. I know where to go when I have questions! Thanks folks!

Regards,

John

Yes, everything will be great in auto, but you'll never learn a thing. I have never seen a professional go on full auto.

True, that!

Down the road, all the technicals will come. I drive my car, use my refrigerator, watch TV, listen to the radio, and do not know how they work...I do fully enjoy using/experiencing these pieces of technology, too...One does not need to know why things work, in order to enjoy them...

John

 

[EchoingWhisper]

Hello Folks,

This has been a very informative thread for me, a newbie.

I just bought the D5100 with the "stock" lens. I usually keep everything on auto, and the pictures look beautiful (indoors and outdoors). I bought the SB400 speed light and either diffuse it with a cap, or point the light to the ceiling to spray additional light, when needed. I also am prone to use Single-Point AF, and, at times, go to "P" and change the white balance to suit the lighting. I have also found the SCENE position and the knob scene positions to be great.

In some of your pictures shown, Marc, perhaps the "issues" would have been solved by leaving the camera on auto, or flipping through some of the scene presets + spray additional light on the subject (those close-up shots)?

Marc, these folks on this thread have been awesome. Sit back and appreciate the time they have put into your questions. I know where to go when I have questions! Thanks folks!

Regards,

John

Yes, everything will be great in auto, but you'll never learn a thing. I have never seen a professional go on full auto.

True, that!

Down the road, all the technicals will come. I drive my car, use my refrigerator, watch TV, listen to the radio, and do not know how they work...I do fully enjoy using/experiencing these pieces of technology, too...One does not need to know why things work, in order to enjoy them...

John

You don't need to know how they work, but you need to know how to use them and get the best out of them.