Hello people! I am lookimg to surprise my girlfriend with a new camera. She already has 2 DSLR's and has come to the conclusion that she wants something more compact and easy to use rather than having a big DLSR around her neck. She doesnt care too much about shooting in manual mode but likes the idea of being able to. I cant really say what she shoots either, basically anything from macro to mountains. So; When we go to stores I always try to sneak her into the camera section to see where her hands go. My deduction is that she likes the retro look and preferably Olympus cameras by the looks of it. She was all over the m10mk2 and thought it was a good cross between a compact camera and the ability to not do everything through a menu. You still have a seeker (though she wasnt impressed over the digital seeker) and the knobs for aperture/shutter speed. This is all perfect. Second option would be the PEN PL8. Now I love the looks of this camera and the simplicity with it, though I am also missing the seeker and on board settings like the m10mk2. Alright so after reading this you can clearly tell that I'm strongly favoring the m10, so why nit go for it? ..Well. The m10 does does not come bundled with a pancake lens like the PEN does. "Fine, just buy the house and get the lens on the side then?" Well, sure, but that makes the thing 2000sek (swedish krona) more expensive. And that's alot. The whole point is to make it a small compact camera, and the lena that comes with the m10 is still "big". So I'm kind of.. Stuck. And my knowledge about Olympus overall is a bit meh, so anything helps. Thoughts?