Photographers are freaking annoying.

imagemaker46 · Jul 11, 2011

What happened to Photographers are freaking annoying? Now it's a discussion on volunteer fire fighters, emergency rescue workers, onboard ship medical triage, all of which I admire and have great respect for, but when you guys all start trying to one up each other it is annoying. Who give a crap if he's been doing it for six months or a year, he's doing something that most of us don't do, both you guys have.

Back to the regular programming, "freaking annoying photographers" Do they have the right to photograph accidents, fires or crime scenes? I already made my statement on the subject.

Derrel · Jul 11, 2011

Destin said:
To correct the time issue: 6 months of being an active member, about 8-10 months being a junior member before that, when I was under 18, but I wasn't allowed to go near the scene, I just did fire police.

My previous thread was referring to me taking photos, but obviously AFTER my job on scene was done, and we were in te cleanup stages....

I'm done arguing this, it's not worth my time.

So, you just turned 18 years old. Hmmm....Maybe a few more months in the world of grown-ups will clarify for you the appropriate roles of professional journalists, photojournalists, and television reporters as they relate to fire department calls on public roadways. And maybe a few more months of being a grown-up will show you what it's like to be on a power trip where emergency workers try and flex muscles they really do not have, and your rinky-dink department get sued by a media outlet with vastly more lawyers and money than your "chief" can possibly manage to combat, and he finds himself out of a job.

PhotoWrangler · Jul 11, 2011

To the OP: if you're ranting this much only 6 months into your public safety career... quit now. It only gets worse, and in 5 to 7 years, you'll find yourself stressing over the rampid stupidity, and becoming a jaded bitter ***** because of it. Ask me how I know.

Destin · Jul 11, 2011

Kerbouchard said:
Sounds like more info is coming out...so, basically, you just turned 18 a few months ago?

yeah. age shouldn't matter. I've had proper training, and I've learned from guys that have up to 50 years of experience in the Fire service.

analog.universe · Jul 11, 2011

Age doesn't matter for a lot of things, but the older you get, the more stupid the rest of the world gets... best not to stress about it too much : )

memento · Jul 11, 2011

i agree with the OP. the modern day 'paparazzi' are more than annoying, they are flat out dangerous.
case in point,

YouTube - ‪Tour De France 2011 Stage 9 car crash. Fletcha & Hoogerland.‬&rlm;

a french tv crew trying to get ahead.. to 'get the shot' no doubt.
it's amazing how many douche bags with a camera are right up in someones face seconds after they crash and the team dr's have to push them aside to get to the rider.

it was mentioned earlier and i agree.. if some jerk is in the way, use one of your 'tools' to move him! and his camera! oops. sorry.

Josh66 · Jul 11, 2011

memento said:
i agree with the OP. the modern day 'paparazzi' are more than annoying, they are flat out dangerous.
case in point,

YouTube - ‪Tour De France 2011 Stage 9 car crash. Fletcha & Hoogerland.‬&rlm;

a french tv crew trying to get ahead.. to 'get the shot' no doubt.
it's amazing how many douche bags with a camera are right up in someones face seconds after they crash and the team dr's have to push them aside to get to the rider.

it was mentioned earlier and i agree.. if some jerk is in the way, use one of your 'tools' to move him! and his camera! oops. sorry.

...That didn't really look like an accident to me.

It looked pretty intentional. :lol:

...Seriously though, it did.

memento · Jul 11, 2011

when he saw the tree, he should have slammed on the breaks instead of into the leaders of the TDF!

gsgary · Jul 11, 2011

If you stand out of the way in the shadows you don't get the shot

memento · Jul 11, 2011

if you stand in my face, you dont get the shot either. you get a broken lens.

imagemaker46 · Jul 11, 2011

If you stand back and work with long glass you get the shot and not punched in the face.

PhotoWrangler · Jul 11, 2011

molested_cow · Jul 11, 2011

The fire department of the city I live in consists about 90++ % volunteer fire fighters. All are volunteers except administrative and higher management folks. They work just like full time guys, except on their own time without pay.

I've been in a one-day fire training just to get a taste of what it's like, and it is definitely not something to be taken lightly. Doesn't matter what you do or how you do it, safety is the top priory. I'd assume that most of these local photo journalists that the OP is referring to don't have the full concept of the importance of safety. When I photograph events, my urge is to dive right in. For an accident scene, that's not the best thing to do.

What happens when the photographer gets hurt? Will it be the fire fighter's liability because "he has failed to take control"?

I'd say if the fire fighters are still at work trying to control an accident scene or put out a fire, photographers should stay out of their way as much as possible. When the scene has been controlled, they can do what they want.

Just my 2 cents.

Destin · Jul 11, 2011

memento said:
when he saw the tree, he should have slammed on the breaks instead of into the leaders of the TDF!

They allow way too many media vehicles in the TDF, someone is going to get killed one of these days. Although, I would LOVE to be a photographer on the back of one of the motorcycles, since I'm a cyclist myself.