Questionnaire for Nude art photographers ATTN!

[BrettN]

So I am working on a project. I want it to be a comment on Male photographers photographing the female nudes. Some female photographers believe this is reserved for females only.

My questions are

Male photographers - What has been your experience and reaction to shooting nudes?

Female Photographers - thoughts on men shooting females nudes?

Also for thoughts, how could i display a fine art project for this to discuss this what I would consider, sexist issue? I have been reading text about the gaze and the other from authors Roland Barthes, Lacan and Merleau - ponty.

 

[Trever1t]

What females think photography of nude females is reserved for female photographers?

 

[cgipson1]

What females think photography of nude females is reserved for female photographers?

^^^THIS!

I don't mind if gals shoot nekkid men, why should they care if I shoot nekkid women (as long as it is tastefully done! Outright sleazy Porn is degrading for either gender!)?

 

[amolitor]

This is a pretty wide field here, and your question is pretty muddy. For male photographers, what reaction are you looking for? The photographer's reaction? The viewing public's reaction? The model's reaction? Random activists?

You seem to be coming at this with a preconception in mind, which you are interested in.. I don't know, proving? Disproving? My showing us the preconception, anyways, you radically alter the kinds of responses you're going to get.

I am a male photographer.
My experience shooting female nudes is pretty limited, but my wife seems to enjoy modeling for me now and then, and I enjoy shooting her. We both like the results. She also seems to like the results of my own nude modeling work, but that seems to be outside the scope of your little survey.

 

[amolitor]

Also, ever single thread you've started has been about shooting nudes, and none of them seem to be connected particularly. You seem to have some sort of obsession with talking about taking pictures of naked women.

 

[Mike_E]

So I am working on a project. I want it to be a comment on Male photographers photographing the female nudes. Some female photographers believe this is reserved for females only.

My questions are

Male photographers - What has been your experience and reaction to shooting nudes?

Female Photographers - thoughts on men shooting females nudes?

Also for thoughts, how could i display a fine art project for this to discuss this what I would consider, sexist issue? I have been reading text about the gaze and the other from authors Roland Barthes, Lacan and Merleau - ponty.

Not that there's anything wrong with posting here while you're in class but why don't you wait until you get out on the street before worrying about hypothetical problems.

 

[e.rose]

Some female photographers believe this is reserved for females only.

Those females are drunk.

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But seriously... is that... is that really an issue? :scratch:

I don't know any female photographers who have ever declared that only women should shoot nudes.

Now I know female CLIENTS who are more COMFORTABLE posing during boudoir shoots or whatnot with female photographers.......... but I don't know any female photographers that think only women should be shooting nudes.

As far as me being a female photographer and having thoughts on men shooting nude women:

Who cares? As long as they're treating their subjects respectfully (as they should be doing with ALLLLL clients/subjects, clothed men, nude men, clothed women, nude women, children, etc), then who cares what they shoot?

I don't really think this is a big issue, honestly. I think you're going to have a hard time finding material on the subject... but I could be wrong.

 

[runnah]

As a former art student I've done my fair share of nude sketching and painting. I find after about 5 mins you stop seeing the nakedness and just see the lines and the light.

Never taken nude photos professionally so I can't say for sure but I imagine the same thing would happen.

 

[bentcountershaft]

As a former art student I've done my fair share of nude sketching and painting. I find after about 5 mins you stop seeing the nakedness and just see the lines and the light.

Never taken nude photos professionally so I can't say for sure but I imagine the same thing would happen.

That's been my experience as well.

 

[CCericola]

I'm pretty sure DaVinci, Michaelangelo, Botticelli, etc... were all men. If a person has hang ups that's their problem. There are plenty of other artists and models out there.

 

[cgipson1]

As a former art student I've done my fair share of nude sketching and painting. I find after about 5 mins you stop seeing the nakedness and just see the lines and the light.

Never taken nude photos professionally so I can't say for sure but I imagine the same thing would happen.

That's been my experience as well.

Yep.. after a little while, all dem beyootiful nekked women just become Objects (de Art, of course!)

Actually I think the whole "sex thing" in shooting, is something only those that have never shot artistic nudes are concerned about. (Only rookies, and the occasional perv, maybe!). Those that shoot professionally, and treat their models with the respect they deserve, don't even think about it that way! (Not to say we don't appreciate a lovely body, but there is more than just that!)

 

[amolitor]

Pretending that only a few creeps and weirdos have sex with their models is to ignore reality.

It can be a pretty sexually charged atmosphere, and leads to sex a lot more often than you'd think. So what?

ETA: But I am pretty sure the OP's just someone who's getting off on having "conversations" about photographing naked girls. He should probably just get on modelmayhem and hire some, get it out of the old system.

 

[cgipson1]

Pretending that only a few creeps and weirdos have sex with their models is to ignore reality.

It can be a pretty sexually charged atmosphere, and leads to sex a lot more often than you'd think. So what?

ETA: But I am pretty sure the OP's just someone who's getting off on having "conversations" about photographing naked girls. He should probably just get on modelmayhem and hire some, get it out of the old system.

hahaha... you are the "expert on everything"... even though you said you have "limited experience" with "these" types of shoots... (in this instance, wives don't count!) And as you have often said... you are not a professional! So how you might treat a model, might differ.... from how a professional might treat a model!

 

[amolitor]

Well, charlie, *I* don't shoot a lot of nudes.

This doesn't mean that I don't know people who shoot nudes. It turns out I do, and I'm pretty aware, albeit at one remove, of how that world operates. And no,
we're not talking about pornographers here, I know some people who produce really outstanding stuff.

You're the guy who says I'm an expert on everything, it's certainly not something I've ever claimed. So, not sure what the quotes are doing there. Are you quoting someone else?

There is a persistent idea that artists in general don't even see the nude figure, what's the phrase from this thread? ".. just see the lines and the light"

There's certainly an element of truth to that. You're trying to make a drawing or a photograph or whatever, your attention is certainly on technique and so on. But, if it was really just lines and light, why aren't you drawing a basket of apples? The class dynamic also comes in to play here, being in a group will tend (normally) to defuse the charged atmosphere a bit.

One artist, one model, no clothes in a room? At the very least, the ice is broken. If they like one another, they might wind up in bed. It happens. People have sex from time to time, it turns out, and a session of making nude art is really promising first date. Everyone's different, and certainly not every nude art session turns into an orgy. Some of them do, and it's not just the skeezy pornographers. This isn't something wives and girlfriends want to hear, so we pretend otherwise, but it's true.

Painters have been hopping into bed with their models for.. ever. Why would photographers be any different?

 

[bentcountershaft]

The class dynamic also comes in to play here, being in a group will tend (normally) to defuse the charged atmosphere a bit.

One artist, one model, no clothes in a room? At the very least, the ice is broken.

I can certainly see the point here. One on one vs. a group is completely different. However most of the shooter's I know advise their models to bring someone with them so that they feel more comfortable. Often times the shooter will have assistants as well, plus the hair and make up people. Not to discount your opinion, but it kind of sounds like you are saying photographers that shoot nudes are more likely to do their post processing post coitus than not. I know it happens, I'm just not convinced it's all that often.