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Shooting in Automatic Mode Issues

ababysean said:
Not really true... If he is doing this in a well lite area it most def will affect the exposure.

It won't effect the exposure to change the shutter speed IF you are using the flash in TTL. if you are setting your flash output by hand it will definitely effect exposure. I didn't really think about it when I wrote the response and kind of assumed it was being set by hand. My bad! Sorry!
 
Thank you for all your help on this issue, its nice to know that people are willing to look at what others are struggling with and help them. Just so you know, I do know that manual mode is better, i just assumed that automatic would be ok too. I am currently enrolled in photography school and I did this job at cost for our Christian School that wants to keep their costs low. So anyone who wants to do God and Others a favor and shoot for free to get a job..go for it!

omg. A reshoot for everything you did wrong will cost them more. Not less. The fact that you are a photography student makes this even worse.
 
ababysean said:
Not really true... If he is doing this in a well lite area it most def will affect the exposure.

It won't effect the exposure to change the shutter speed IF you are using the flash in TTL. if you are setting your flash output by hand it will definitely effect exposure. I didn't really think about it when I wrote the response and kind of assumed it was being set by hand. My bad! Sorry!


Still wrong. Flash exposure is a function of f/stop, flash GN, and flash to subject distance. Shutter speed is not part of that equation especially if you're setting flash output by hand. An ambient light exposure can be included as a second exposure but I considered that and that's why I started the comment with, "If the exposures are in fact flash exposures...."

Joe
 
omg. A reshoot for everything you did wrong will cost them more. Not less. The fact that you are a photography student makes this even worse.
I happily donate many hours of my time/[alleged] skill/effort every year to various projects, but fixing the mistakes of others? That gets billed at the very highest rate!
 
I would hope a re-shoot would cost them nothing. The shoot was at cost and I am thinking that means cost of products, not CODB. In either case the re-shoot would be at the photographers expense seeing how it was their error.
Somewhere I fail to see how it would be of a higher cost to the school.
 
...Somewhere I fail to see how it would be of a higher cost to the school.
It would be at a higher cost if they had to bring in another photographer to "fix" the problems. What should happen, IMO, is that the original photographer should very quickly learn where he went wrong, how to correct it, and re-shoot at no cost to the school.
 
I have noting to really say, I just read the title of the thread and had to come in and read it.....knew it was gonna be good
 
I think they're being a little harsh on ya, you made a mistake and asked some people how to improve that's a great way to get better. I would shoot with P and consider that your Easy mode until you figure out how to use aperture and shutter mode and then finally manual. Also make sure you put the focus point on the persons eyes in case you didn't know that. I used easy mode on my d60 for the first time the other day because I was at a restaurant and wanted a quick picture of the food and wanted point and shoot quality... well I would've been better off with a point and shoot the easy mode was horrible I should've just done P w/flash.
 
...Somewhere I fail to see how it would be of a higher cost to the school.
It would be at a higher cost if they had to bring in another photographer to "fix" the problems. What should happen, IMO, is that the original photographer should very quickly learn where he went wrong, how to correct it, and re-shoot at no cost to the school.
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Agree with THAT being added cost... Guess I wasn't thinking about bringing someone else in to do the job! Like I said before...
...Now what? You probably need to do a re-shoot.
 
I think they're being a little harsh on ya, you made a mistake and asked some people how to improve that's a great way to get better. I would shoot with P and consider that your Easy mode until you figure out how to use aperture and shutter mode and then finally manual. Also make sure you put the focus point on the persons eyes in case you didn't know that. I used easy mode on my d60 for the first time the other day because I was at a restaurant and wanted a quick picture of the food and wanted point and shoot quality... well I would've been better off with a point and shoot the easy mode was horrible I should've just done P w/flash.

Programme would let you choose which metering method, no? Auto i assume is evaluative only.
 
I think they're being a little harsh on ya, you made a mistake and asked some people how to improve that's a great way to get better. I would shoot with P and consider that your Easy mode until you figure out how to use aperture and shutter mode and then finally manual. Also make sure you put the focus point on the persons eyes in case you didn't know that. I used easy mode on my d60 for the first time the other day because I was at a restaurant and wanted a quick picture of the food and wanted point and shoot quality... well I would've been better off with a point and shoot the easy mode was horrible I should've just done P w/flash.

I have to respectfully disagree with you here. Ok, well I agree that there are some harsh realities pointed out here.. kinda harshly. There seems to be a lot of that here.
BUT using one of the priority modes would have done the same thing as AUTO did for him. It would have metered exactly the same as auto mode and created the shutter or aperture (whatever priority mode you are in) compensate in the exact same way it did with the settings in auto. And P would have produced the exact same thing as auto for the most part.
The meter still hits a black shirt and tells the shutter it is too dark, slow down... or it hits a white shirt and tells it to speed up... Or reduce/increase aperture...
 
The meter still hits a black shirt and tells the shutter it is too dark, slow down... or it hits a white shirt and tells it to speed up... Or reduce/increase aperture...
OK ..true.
 
The meter still hits a black shirt and tells the shutter it is too dark, slow down... or it hits a white shirt and tells it to speed up... Or reduce/increase aperture...
OK ..true.
Hence the reason for normally doing this sort of work in Manual and using incident metering.
 

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