Slide film

[fightheheathens]

I was reading another topic about how now days when you order a print from slide film, it is done by a digital scan then print.

My question is twofold.
question the first, can you make an optical print from a slide.

question the second, how is an optical print made from a slide?
my best guess would be that you use the slide to project onto color paper and make a color negative. then do a contact print. but i dont know if this works from color.


I ask this question because i have recently found out that the university of California Berkeley offers public art classes and included in that is a class on color developing and color printing. (I believe this includes e6 process)

ps. Im excited that im gona have access to a very nice printing dark room

 

[cosmonaut]

I'm sure you can. They did it years ago before scanners and computers. I don't know the process though.......
Cosmo

 

[niccig]

I know the process is called Ilfochrome (formerly called cibachrome) but I don't know anything about how it works, and I'm too lazy to look it up It's something I"m interested in too, though

 

[j_mcquillen]

Click here for some descriptions of exactly what cibachrome (or ilfochrome) is...

I get all my slides printed up large on cibachrome, and they look fantastic - deep, rich colour, accurate to the original slides, and (according to all the tests) will last more or less a lifetime without fading...

 

[ladyphotog]

It is an R-3 process and there are very few around nowadays. The digital printers can print from a slide and do a pretty good job, no where near what the old chrome prints did but not too bad. There is a place in NY that does beautiful true chrome prints but they are expensive. It is called iChrome Editions 866-820-0722

 

[mysteryscribe]

back in the day..... I had a friend who owned a kis one hour lab. He sent me all his slides to make inner negs.... That was also one of the ways it was done. But the type r and cybachrome were more colorful. The question about using cybachrome as a paper negative even came up once Hertz I think said he had seen that done.

 

[fmw]

I used to do it personally with inter negatives. I would simply photograph the slide in a slide copier onto negative color film. The problem with the process is that it builds contrast - lots of it - so you learned to pre-flash the negative film to cut back on contrast. The inter negative could then be printed like any other color negative.

Cibachrome was a better process but expensive for a photographer so almost everyone used the interneg. Makes you really appreciate what you can do with digital imaging.

 

[Alex_B]

I have some larger prints from slide film. However these were processed by a lab some 7 years ago. Now idea what the process was, but the prints look very slide-like in terms of colours and contrast. Whereas prints from negative, which I shot in the same light, same location, always were a problem for me (when processed in a lab wher you cannot influence anything). That was actually one of my reasons to migrate to slide: Lacking my own lab, only via slide film I could actually get the proper contrast and colours.

Nowadays, scanning from slide film and digital prints yield virtually the same results ... IF a good scanner is used.

 

[Philip Weir]

I used to do it personally with inter negatives. I would simply photograph the slide in a slide copier onto negative color film. The problem with the process is that it builds contrast - lots of it - so you learned to pre-flash the negative film to cut back on contrast. The inter negative could then be printed like any other color negative.

Cibachrome was a better process but expensive for a photographer so almost everyone used the interneg. Makes you really appreciate what you can do with digital imaging.

I would have to agree wih you, but the better method is to use Kodak or similar interneg film, which has a lower contrast ratio and I always contacted the films together so as to not lose any quality, or at least as little as possible. Using anti newton glass is a must.

 

[mysteryscribe]

and of course to most people here from the digital generation that translates "quack quack quack quckity quack."

 

[ladyphotog]

Never in a million years!!!!!! A true chrome print is a thing of beauty and can't be done digitally as well in any shape form or fashion.

 

[terri]

Never in a million years!!!!!! A true chrome print is a thing of beauty and can't be done digitally as well in any shape form or fashion.

Right on.

 

[fmw]

Never in a million years!!!!!! A true chrome print is a thing of beauty and can't be done digitally as well in any shape form or fashion.

Well, maybe in 5 or 10 years. Tonal gradation has improved by a quantum leap in digital photography in the past 5 years and that is really what separates pixels from silver halides. I don't see any reaon that it can't continue to improve. I'll admit there is some special beauty in a well made analog print but the differences are becoming more subtle all the time.

 

[fmw]

and of course to most people here from the digital generation that translates "quack quack quack quckity quack."

Yikes! You make me feel like a dinosaur. Sure, I'm talking about the past millenium but only 15 years ago or so!

 

[ladyphotog]

Well, maybe in 5 or 10 years. Tonal gradation has improved by a quantum leap in digital photography in the past 5 years and that is really what separates pixels from silver halides. I don't see any reaon that it can't continue to improve. I'll admit there is some special beauty in a well made analog print but the differences are becoming more subtle all the time.

Total gradation from digital will never match film with the current technology, you have to understand where the gradation comes from to see that new technology will have to be introduced into the photo industry for it to get anywhere near. It is light years behind film now and will not make that many 'quantum' leaps in my lifetime for sure. I will put any B&W fiber or chrome print against anything digital printed on anything that you want, the silver print will always win out. Digital is not there and has a LONG way to go to even get into the ballpark.