Tell me about your dream setup!

[480sparky]

............The in-body focusing motor is a nod to users who have money invested in "old" AF lenses, dating back to the mid-1980's............

But why put focus motors in lenses the entry-level users are NEVER going to buy? Seriously.... how many D40 and D60 users are gonna pony up $9k for a 500mm prime? The target market for long glass is those who own bodies with focus motors in them already.

 

[sonicbuffalo]

My dream setup is a huuuuuge trust fund with a massive $6 million a year payout, and a beach house in Cali with a few steady actress/model, hot, skinny, girlfriend-types all constantly vying for my attentions and affections...now THAT's my dream setup!!!

except do it in Florida!

 

[JustJazzie]

When my DH builds his dream garage- I told him I want a photo studio on top, so probably like 3-4 car garage worths of space- complete with nearly wall to wall windows that I can use or black out at my whim. Photo lights hung from the ceiling that I can move around to where ever I need them (don't ask me how to accomplish this- that's his problem not mine) and of corse lighting and backdrop options galore. Oh it's a fine dream world I live in!

 

[Derrel]

............The in-body focusing motor is a nod to users who have money invested in "old" AF lenses, dating back to the mid-1980's............

But why put focus motors in lenses the entry-level users are NEVER going to buy? Seriously.... how many D40 and D60 users are gonna pony up $9k for a 500mm prime? The target market for long glass is those who own bodies with focus motors in them already.

Are you seriously asking why put high-performance, specifically-dedicated, lens-appropriate, silent-wave coreless focusing motors in lenses designed to offer fast,accurate,silent focusing? You know, focusing motors that have been engineered, and tested, and SPECIFICALLY optimized for each,specific lens design? Are you aware of the difference in how a dedicated, AF-S motor can predict focus and arrive at a precise focus spot in ONE, single,discrete movement, as opposed to a series of check-compare-check-compare-check-compare hit-and miss estimations, and minor corrections that screw-driven, "universal" focusing is plagued by?

In-LENS coreless focusing motors are the silent, fast, reliable way to achieve almost instant focusing, as well as to achieve follow-focus, and predictive autofocus. In-LENS AF motors mean that each lens has its own focusing motor that is carefully designed to handle the needs of that one, specific lens design; if the focusing group is small, a smaller motor can be used. If the focusing group is large, a larger, beefier motor can be used. In ALL ways, every single camera maker has decided that the "best" system for AF lenses is in-LENS focusing motors of the silent-wave type.

In-LENS focusing motors have made a huge improvement in the focusing performance of ALL lens types!!! A 300 f/2.8 with a screw-drive system sucks. A 300/2.8 with a Nikon AF-S motor is a dream. A 35-70mm f/3.3~4.5 AF Nikkor goes dzzzt!dzzzt!dzzzzt! back and forth,m back and forth, as it tries to screw-driver focus in dim light...the 24-85 AF-S goes "dit", and in .3 second is LOCKED on..............and both are cheaper, low-spec lenses...

In-lens focusing motors are the best way to focus modern AF lenses. That's just a fact of how screw-drive works, as opposed to silent wave...on slow f/4.5~5.6 type lenses, silent wave motors offer vastly better focusing performance than screw-drive ever did. THe reason is that EACH lens can be driven to a *specific*,discrete focusing distance based on the data; screw-driver focusing works on the basis of continually checking the status of the focus with NO feedback, no predictive transfer of information....screw drive focusing is based on trial and error, trial and error, all done fairly rapidly. AF-S protocol is specific, to each lens's focal length and aperture, and has predictive capability, and so it can actually collect the initial data, and drive the lens to a single,discrete,specific,exact, precise distance, in ONE, single movement. Silently. And fast. Over and over and over and over again. Even with slow-aperture lenses. One is building with a set of blueprints (AF-S, HSM). The other is building as you go, scrounging bits and trimming mistakes and fixing boo-boos continually until the job is finally done (screw-drive).

 

[Trainwizard]

See my signature. That's my dream. Such gear does not exist.

Meanwhile in the real world, my dream setup would be an exotic beach house with a nice photo studio and a separate room for my music studio.

Camera gear would include:
Nikon D800(E) with grip
Nikon D7100 as backup
Nikon 18-300 3.5-5.6
Nikon 14-24 2.8
Nikon 24-70 2.8
Nikon 70-200VR2 2.8
Nikon 24, 35, 50, & 85 f/1.4 AF-S
Nikon 2x AF-S teleconverter
Nikon SB-910 Flash
A camera suitcase to fit all the above plus brackets, filters, spare batteries, a tripod and a 15" MacBook Pro.

Everything above excluding the exotic house will set me back at least $26K.

 

[nzmacro]

Have me thinking hard about this I have everything I need for what I take. I do need another body though, two would be great to have and plan to get a Sony A6000 to go with the NEX-7, that's about it really.

Want instead of need would be a Canon 1200 F/5.6L, but that's just one big hassle with the need of a small truck to mount it on as well At around $120,000 for the lens alone, that's not going to happen, LOL. So I'm happy with what I have at the end of the day.

All the best and yep, you made me think about it for sure.

Danny.

 

[coffeefilter]

oh...
and this is my dream setup...

Leica S Edition 100 Medium Format DSLR Camera with 30mm and 70mm Lenses Kit 10805

I've been comparing camera equipment lately, and either I'm missing something, or this is completely and utterly overpriced for the specs it delivers. Can someone tell me why this is better than a D800?

 

[480sparky]

Are you seriously asking why put high-performance, specifically-dedicated, lens-appropriate, silent-wave coreless focusing motors in lenses designed to offer fast,accurate,silent focusing?........

Not at all.

I'm saying I don't NEED it, so I don't want to pay for it nor lug it around.

Huge difference.

 

[Derrel]

Are you seriously asking why put high-performance, specifically-dedicated, lens-appropriate, silent-wave coreless focusing motors in lenses designed to offer fast,accurate,silent focusing?........

Not at all.

I'm saying I don't NEED it, so I don't want to pay for it nor lug it around.

Huge difference.

Lugging it around? Are you kidding????

Nikon silent wave motor - Google Search

Silent Wave motors give hugely better autofocusing performance than screw-driver systems, which are a maze of connecting cams and drive rods. You're comparing electric start and fuel injection to an old Model-T Ford with a carb and hand-cranked engine, and saying you prefer the hand-cranked engine system. You know, because the starter motor is so gol-durn heavy.

Silent wave focusing systems equalize the focusing speed between entry-level and flagship level bodies; an AF-S Nikkor on a D40 focuses as fast in single-shot acquisition as it does on a D3x. With the older, screw-driven system, there is a large degree of disparity between the low-end cameras and the flagship cameras. Try an old, screw-driver 80-200 on-ring f/2.8 zoom on a D70 or D80 or D90, then try it on a D3x; the low-end cameras can barely provide acceptable performance on the big-lens lenses like 80-200 one-ring, whereas the "pro" D1-D2-D3 series have the torque to make those old beasts at least acceptable.

AF-S also allows INSTANT, full-time manual focusing override, which is something many (most actually) of the AF and AF-D Nikkor cannot do, and the user is required to flip a switch or spin a rotating ring switch on the lens barrel in order to shift from AF mode to manual focus mode, which can easily cost a shot opportunity. With an AF-S lens, if the system messes up, you can just grab the ring and focus it by hand and eye....with an AF or AF-D lens, you need to press a lock button, then turn a switch, then make the correction...and then you are locked in Manual-only focus mode.

Again...model T and hand-cranked starting...which was acceptable in the 19-teens...

My "dream system" features ALL AF-S focusing lenses. 14-24, 16-35 VR, 24-70 AF-S, 70-200 VR-II, 300/2.8 VR, 400/2.8, 200-400 VR, 105 VR Micro, 24/28/35/50/85, all in the NEW, high-speed AF-S G mount, pair of D3x bodies, a D800e, and a D7100 with the 80-400 AF-S to replace the dog-meat 80-400 AF-D VR I have owned for years.

 

[480sparky]

Are you seriously asking why put high-performance, specifically-dedicated, lens-appropriate, silent-wave coreless focusing motors in lenses designed to offer fast,accurate,silent focusing?........

Not at all.

I'm saying I don't NEED it, so I don't want to pay for it nor lug it around.

Huge difference.

Lugging it around? Are you kidding????

Nikon silent wave motor - Google Search

Silent Wave motors give hugely better autofocusing performance than screw-driver systems, which are a maze of connecting cams and drive rods. You're comparing electric start and fuel injection to an old Model-T Ford with a carb and hand-cranked engine, and saying you prefer the hand-cranked engine system. You know, because the starter motor is so gol-durn heavy.

Silent wave focusing systems equalize the focusing speed between entry-level and flagship level bodies; an AF-S Nikkor on a D40 focuses as fast in single-shot acquisition as it does on a D3x. With the older, screw-driven system, there is a large degree of disparity between the low-end cameras and the flagship cameras. Try an old, screw-driver 80-200 on-ring f/2.8 zoom on a D70 or D80 or D90, then try it on a D3x; the low-end cameras can barely provide acceptable performance on the big-lens lenses like 80-200 one-ring, whereas the "pro" D1-D2-D3 series have the torque to make those old beasts at least acceptable.

AF-S also allows INSTANT, full-time manual focusing override, which is something many (most actually) of the AF and AF-D Nikkor cannot do, and the user is required to flip a switch or spin a rotating ring switch on the lens barrel in order to shift from AF mode to manual focus mode, which can easily cost a shot opportunity. With an AF-S lens, if the system messes up, you can just grab the ring and focus it by hand and eye....with an AF or AF-D lens, you need to press a lock button, then turn a switch, then make the correction...and then you are locked in Manual-only focus mode.

Again...model T and hand-cranked starting...which was acceptable in the 19-teens...

Yeah, and a Farrari can go from 0 to 60 in 3.7. That's nice, but....... Do I need one?


NO. That's why I don't own a Ferrari. It doesn't do what I want or need a vehicle to do.





What part of "I don't need it, don't want to pay for it" don't you get?

 

[Derrel]

You're hilarious man. Poor dude, "lugging around" a 2-ounce motor in exchange for 10x better focusing performance...BTW, Pep Boys auto parts sells that crank starter kit to retroactively "Model-T" your vehicles! People with Luddite hangups are not charged extra at pep Boys, nor at Nikon. I am kidding you because I suspect you're deliberately being obstinate about a HUGE improvement in focusing method and technology that has been around for over twenty years now!!!

Sorry, but silent wave motors are like autofocus: here to STAY. Deal with it.

 

[CAP]

I had a dream setup a few years ago and i worked hard and persevered and i now i have it and you can't get any better.

My Current Setup
Portable Super Telephoto Setup
Canon 1DX, 300mm f/2.8 IS USM and a x1.4 Teleconverter III

Non-portable Super Telephoto Setup
Canon 1DX, 600mm f/4 IS USM and a x2 Teleconverter III



Or my 70-200mm all around stuff.

 

[snerd]

........ Lol! I'm "invested" in sony emount right now. Every noise comparison I've come across puts the mkiii ahead noise wise. And the comparison one I found (not sure where right now) did pixel peep but the 100% crops in the mkiii blew the d8000 out of the water!

I came sooooooooooo close to getting the D800!! But I already had Canon glass, so went with the 5D3.

 

[480sparky]

You're hilarious man. Poor dude, "lugging around" a 2-ounce motor in exchange for 10x better focusing performance...BTW, Pep Boys auto parts sells that crank starter kit to retroactively "Model-T" your vehicles! People with Luddite hangups are not charged extra at pep Boys, nor at Nikon. I am kidding you because I suspect you're deliberately being obstinate about a HUGE improvement in focusing method and technology that has been around for over twenty years now!!! Sorry, but silent wave motors are like autofocus: here to STAY. Deal with it.

None are so blind as those who refuse to see. I'll leave it at that.

 

[snerd]

You're hilarious man. Poor dude, "lugging around" a 2-ounce motor in exchange for 10x better focusing performance...BTW, Pep Boys auto parts sells that crank starter kit to retroactively "Model-T" your vehicles! People with Luddite hangups are not charged extra at pep Boys, nor at Nikon. I am kidding you because I suspect you're deliberately being obstinate about a HUGE improvement in focusing method and technology that has been around for over twenty years now!!! Sorry, but silent wave motors are like autofocus: here to STAY. Deal with it.

None are so blind as those who refuse to see. I'll leave it at that.

Aristotle or So-Crates?!