Truth in Photoshopping

[Ysarex]

France Aims To Get Real: Retouched Photos Of Models Now Require A Label

 

[SquarePeg]

Moving in the right direction!

 

[Peeb]

Have only read OP - not the linked article but ... Not a terrible idea!

 

[smoke665]

Yet there's nothing limiting the models from cosmetic surgery or other body "enhancing" surgery. What's the difference?

 

[SquarePeg]

Yet there's nothing limiting the models from cosmetic surgery or other body "enhancing" surgery. What's the difference?

I think with less photoshopping there will be fewer surgeries as young women won’t be idealizing unattainable body images.

 

[smoke665]

young women won’t be idealizing unattainable body images.

Seriously? Forget the surgery for now, but let me ask something, how many women including yourself, use makeup? Why do they do It? Isn't it an attempt to create the illusion of a more pleasing look? The point is I think women have been striving for the ideal unattainable body image far longer then PS has been around. Frankly I see this as nothing more than a useless "feel good" law. Women will still spend billions on cosmetics, clothes, and surgeries, to achieve the perceived ideal look.

 

[SquarePeg]

Using makeup to enhance your looks is not comparable to starving yourself to attain a “thigh gap” that was created via Photoshop.

ETA - please don’t quote me out of context

 

[Overread]

Most women cannot afford extensive plastic surgery - and most under 18 can't even legally undergo such vanity treatment in many countries.
However they can starve themselves, especially during an age range where their bodies are maturing and honestly need more energy and food than otherwise in order to develop in a healthy natural way. By impacting the fake achievements of photoshop it goes a long way to helping improve real impressions of people rather than always aiming for those fake appearances that; whilst pleasing to the eye; are physically impossible for healthy women.

 

[smoke665]

Using makeup to enhance your looks is not comparable to starving yourself to attain a “thigh gap” that was created via Photoshop.

ETA - please don’t quote me out of context

So what you're saying is that it's okay for women to reach for an unattainable look, it's only the extent of the process you have a problem with. Who decides the limit?
Even if it does slow down one thing which i doubt, 10 more will pop up. Corsets date back to the 16th century, with the bindings so tight in some cases it took the assistance of a strong helper to tie them. Surely that couldn't have been healthy. The oriental practice of foot binding dates back a millennium and was practiced to create the idealized foot. The list goes on and on. Like prohibition in this country, people still drank, and this law will do little if anything to change feminine perceptions of the ideal image.
As to the effect on young girls you're missing what should be "the most important influence" on any child's life - the parents.

 

[Tomasko]

it's only the extent of the process you have a problem with. Who decides the limit?

This is exactly what bothers me about it. Today it's body shape, tomorrow it could be removing blemishes. What's next?

Idealising beauty has always been a very important part of human society, only the standards are constantly shifting. Standards were usually a result of current situation. When food was scarce, a more corpulent body shape was desired, because it indicated the person is well fed and can potentially take care of kids. Nowadays we have a huge problem with obesity in the world, so a thin look is naturally seen as a better alternative in order to fight it. Is trying to look more appealing and be more healthy a bad thing?

If someone has mental issues, something's wrong and he/she needs to see a specialist, but I can guarantee you that sentence "this image has been altered" won't help a bit.

 

[Peeb]

Using makeup to enhance your looks is not comparable to starving yourself to attain a “thigh gap” that was created via Photoshop.

ETA - please don’t quote me out of context

So what you're saying is that it's okay for women to reach for an unattainable look, it's only the extent of the process you have a problem with. Who decides the limit?
Even if it does slow down one thing which i doubt, 10 more will pop up. Corsets date back to the 16th century, with the bindings so tight in some cases it took the assistance of a strong helper to tie them. Surely that couldn't have been healthy. The oriental practice of foot binding dates back a millennium and was practiced to create the idealized foot. The list goes on and on. Like prohibition in this country, people still drank, and this law will do little if anything to change feminine perceptions of the ideal image.
As to the effect on young girls you're missing what should be "the most important influence" on any child's life - the parents.

Easy to say if you don't have a daughter with these issues but I can assure you that no amount of love can prevent an eating disorder.

Are you suggesting that anorexia/bulemia is the product of bad parenting?? I find this conclusion troubling and perhaps poorly thought out.

 

[Peeb]

it's only the extent of the process you have a problem with. Who decides the limit?

This is exactly what bothers me about it. Today it's body shape, tomorrow it could be removing blemishes. What's next?

Idealising beauty has always been a very important part of human society, only the standards are constantly shifting. Standards were usually a result of current situation. When food was scarce, a more corpulent body shape was desired, because it indicated the person is well fed and can potentially take care of kids. Nowadays we have a huge problem with obesity in the world, so a thin look is naturally seen as a better alternative in order to fight it. Is trying to look more appealing and be more healthy a bad thing?

If someone has mental issues, something's wrong and he/she needs to see a specialist, but I can guarantee you that sentence "this image has been altered" won't help a bit.

So it should not be pursued because it MIGHT not be effective? I would only take this approach to inconsequential problems.

 

[Destin]

Agreed. This seems like a feel good law that isn’t really going to change anything in the real world. People will completely overlook the fact that it’s photoshopped and continue to view them as they always have.

95% of the world already knows that photos of models in advertising are heavily photoshopped. Very few people would be surprised by this, and therefore labeling it as such will have little effect.

 

[Destin]

it's only the extent of the process you have a problem with. Who decides the limit?

This is exactly what bothers me about it. Today it's body shape, tomorrow it could be removing blemishes. What's next?

Idealising beauty has always been a very important part of human society, only the standards are constantly shifting. Standards were usually a result of current situation. When food was scarce, a more corpulent body shape was desired, because it indicated the person is well fed and can potentially take care of kids. Nowadays we have a huge problem with obesity in the world, so a thin look is naturally seen as a better alternative in order to fight it. Is trying to look more appealing and be more healthy a bad thing?

If someone has mental issues, something's wrong and he/she needs to see a specialist, but I can guarantee you that sentence "this image has been altered" won't help a bit.

So it should not be pursued because it MIGHT not be effective? I would only take this approach to inconsequential problems.

No. But putting more laws on the books just for the sake of putting laws on the books is a terrible approach to government.

Frankly, I don’t see how the government should get a say in what’s printed in a privately owned and published advertisement.

 

[Peeb]

Agreed. This seems like a feel good law that isn’t really going to change anything in the real world. People will completely overlook the fact that it’s photoshopped and continue to view them as they always have.

95% of the world already knows that photos of models in advertising are heavily photoshopped. Very few people would be surprised by this, and therefore labeling it as such will have little effect.

Says the guy without an eating disorder. Let's pull the health warning off cigarettes while we're at it.

Seriously, if you haven't lived through this issue, you literally have no idea how big this problem is.