Ugh... Instagram Filters

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  1. DGMPhotography

    DGMPhotography Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    Solid strategy xD


     
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    Derrel Mr. Rain Cloud

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    I personally think that many people are overreacting to Instagram filters. If the client hires you to take photos many people will feel that they own the photos. I'm not certain that being hardline about this will actually get you more business. I think there is a fine line between shooting for hire, and repeatedly emphasizing that you own the copyright to the photos
     
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    Derrel Mr. Rain Cloud

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    I browse Instagram daily, and have noticed that the filter aspect of Instagram has become much less pronounced than it used to be. In fact the vest majority of the photos that I see on Instagram have not been filtered, and look very "unfiltered".
     
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    Derrel Mr. Rain Cloud

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    When Instagram started out it only allowed users to post square aspect ratio photos. Of course that has been changed, and the vast majority of the photos that I see these days are shown as verticals. Vertical video, once largely regarded as anathema has come to be the standard on many platforms and for many content creators. Instagram has gone from a photo display platform to more of a real time social media and an advertising platform.

    If a person really butchers a photo with an absolutely horrible filter job, that is one thing. But if a person just does a little bit of color toning,or converts a color image to black-and-white, and your copyright is on the front of the photo, is that such a bad thing if say 1000 people see it?
     
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    DGMPhotography Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    This is the photo in question - thoughts?

    Original:
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    Instagrammed:
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    Derrel Mr. Rain Cloud

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    Not nearly as bad as I had envisioned. In some ways, one being the crop in particular, the Instagram version is better than the original in my opinion. As for the Low fidelity look and the washed out highlights, it does look very Instagram-ish . But, as I said, it is not as bad as I had envisioned it to be.
     
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    thedingo0099 TPF Noob!

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    More fool you.
    Contracts work 2 ways.
    Seems like you’ve set yourself a legal precedent by ignoring its terms; ie, acting on the other party when they break their terms of agreement.
    You might find it a bit late to start now.
    Count your losses and learn your lesson.
    If you want others to be serious about contractual arrangements, be serious yourself.
    Don’t part with your files.

     
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    DGMPhotography Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    It would be nice if that was the case, but unfortunately in the real world, sticking to your guns like that more often loses you business than gaining. I think it truly depends on the specific client-photographer relationship. In this case, I feel the client would continue to work with me if I do call him out on it, because he values my opinion and is typically very open to feedback.
     
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    TreeofLifeStairs No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    I noticed he cropped out your watermark. Now, good or bad, no one knows the picture’s source.
     
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    JBPhotog No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    Contracts should be written specific to the actual use by the client. Generic contracts are just too loose to be of actual use and are strife for contentious behaviour by the client.

    Most if not all concerns about copyright or moral right infringement can be handled during the pre-shoot discussion. Find out what the clients intended use will be and include that stipulation in the "license of use" section of your contract. If they say Instagram, you should be aware that typically images are square or vertical, not often are they horizontal format. Any addition of your watermark should also be discussed in your pre-shoot discussions, keeping in mind that most commercial shoots don't provide the inclusion of a watermark.
     
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    If he is a valued customer, I would not do it via mail, or email, do it face to face, or via phone if in person is not an option. It is easy to read the wrong "tone" in a written message and it sounds like the casual approach in person might be the most effective, possibly waiting until your next shoot to bring it up.
     
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    The edit cleared up his skin, and brought out his eyes, and lightened the feel overall. Yours is very dark and contrast/structured/harsh and red tinted.

    You should learn from what he did. I ask all my clients what type of photos they like before a shoot, and to offer a pinterest board if possible. If they send me all color toned images, I know that's probably how I need to edit the set. I have a home chef who wants some promo portraits for a new blog launching in a few months, and she wants very bright, clean, studio-esque f/16 type of shots.
     
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