Vintage Black Nikon F with serial 6408997 w/ lenses in metal attache

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  1. Dave442

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    Thats a camera to take out and use, if it is in working condition. The case was typical for the 60's and 70's. My grandfather had the black Halliburton case with the Nikon FTn, three lenses and flash with custom cut foam. I followed by buying a cheap plastic pistol case and cutting the foam myself for my Minolta. You would fit in back in the day when everyone carried briefcases.

    My grandfather also had the Nikon F Photomic from the early 1960's, but stopped using it when he picked up the FTn in the late 60's. I suppose if I was a collector I would want the earlier non-metered F - hope you can find someone that needs this to fill out their collection.

    I think the $200 to $400 range is not too bad for a camera like this, especially as the Minolta/Pentax and other similar cameras from the era are all well under $100. Would be interesting to know if it is worth more.

    Also, the first thing I do with an old camera is check if there is film in it. I have bought cameras that had partially exposed rolls of film - if you shot film it would just be natural to check before opening the back of the camera.

    The accessories aren't bad, nobody liked having a flash sitting over their rewind knob so the flash bracket was common for an F model, also the cable release is typical of Nikon making something different and costing more while everyone else used a common thread-in style cable release.


     
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    That's the trouble with black painted cameras. They really show the wear and tear. But, they're gorgeous if you don't use them. :)

    Back in the day the black versions didn't really cost all that much more than the chrome ones. They were thought to be "more professional" looking but few were sold. The chrome cameras were for tourists and the black ones were for the pros, or so some people thought. :) :)

    I used to worry that the black color would make interior temperatures higher which may be more likely to to cause undesirable effects on the film if left in sunlight.
     
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    Back then, black F’s were hard to get. The scarcity of black increased their value, law of supply and demand. Derrel’s observations and comments seem accurate. The camera may have been painted as it appears to be slivering instead of brassing.
     
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    I got the camera a few years ago thinking the lenses would be interchangeable with my camera but they were not. The man that sold it to me said he got it from someone in Hollywood who used it for business and it was serviced regularly. He said he used it very little after he bought it. I do have a couple old service records from the 70 & 80s not sure if that even matters. Now I am cleaning out the house and debating on what to do with this thing :) As everyone noticed it was used a lot. Timer and everything we played with seem to work fine.
    We do not know how to tell if there are light leaks but the back fits on tightly. It is definitely brassing on the front
    the photo made the worn areas look white. No major body damage. We can see no molding on the lenses. The lenses that came with it was a Nikkor 50mm 1:2 a Nikkor-Q Auto 1:2.8 f=135 besides the one on the camera. I am not sure if this is the type of pictures you need of the glass?
     

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    It does appear you have a genuine black body which increases the value slightly depending on who you ask but ultimately not much. The lenses look clean which is always a good thing but again they are nothing super special. You have a 35mm and a 50mm which are the standards for the set and unfortunately not the tick mark lenses. The old service receipts are somewhat irrelevant as they are to old to reflect current quality. Light leaks can only really be tested for by running a roll of film through it. Frankly you can replace the foam seals on these cameras at home for <$20 and I do it generally when ever I obtain one. If the seals are shot the foam has a tendency to fall apart to the touch. If you can find someone local with a shutter timer (or a shop willing to check it) you can see if the body needs an over haul. If everything is working (more or less) I'd say go out and use the thing, have some fun.
     
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    These days you can mount pre-AI lenses on any of the D3000 and D5000 series (no metering) or the Df. The 35mm, 50mm and 135mm are what everyone had so nothing unexpected there.

    I really liked the focus ring style like on that on your 35mm lens. The 135mm f/2.8 was a good lens and the one I used had a built-in lens hood, overall a nice solid feel. Usually a 2x TC was in the bag to use with this lens, not sure if that is the black item.

    I think this is best to sell as a kit just so you can do one sale. I would say to keep it only if it has sentimental value (doesn't sound like it) or you plan to use it (with the 35mm mounted and B&W it is a fun camera). Most of my SLR bodies had hinged backs, the Nikon F back comes all the way off and I was told to just stick it under my arm while walking and changing a roll of film.
     
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    F's have rather hard, wool felt seals, and they typically last much,much,much longer than soft, foam seals do. The 50mm f/2 is a significantly later production lens. The 3.5 cm f/2.8 and the 135mm f/2.8 were common prime lenses for the era, nothing special, but decent optics. I dunno...see if somebody will buy it off of e-Bay, perhaps. But do not expect anywhere near what that one collectibles page indicated.
     
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    I like "black over brass" just because it's not chrome. I have a couple black cameras -- 35 mm. vin
     
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    Oooh purty. That's quite the score. Why not give it a quick film test? See what it's capable of?

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    I will just take the suggestions above and sell it as a kit for whatever I can get. Cleaning out the closets and way too much stuff!
     
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    Ah. That makes sense. I should probably be the last person to talk... I buy and sell cameras as a hobby.

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