What is with all these beginners with $1000+ cameras?

[JIP]

People spend thousands of dollars on bodies and a couple hundred on zoom lenses because they think the camera does all the work.

I've seen way too many people with D300/200's and 18-55/55-200's on them.

Now now there are a few peole on ths board that think that is a perfectly acceptable combination, that or the 18-200.

 

[sabbath999]

You will see my 55-200 VR on my D300 from time to time.

It takes really good pictures, and in certain situations I use it in place of my 70-200 f/2.8 VR.

Having said that, I agree with your intent... that good glass is more important than a camera body.

I did, after all, buy the 70-200 VR before I bought the 55-200 VR.

I haven't had my wife's 18-200 on my D300 though... I really don't care for that lens very much.

As far as the 18-55, it is the only other wide angle I own... but since I really don't shoot wide angle much, it has never made it onto the D300 either.

Usually I keep my 24-70 f/2.8 on it for basketball shots, along with the 70-200 VR.

 

[Tennessee Landscape]

If they are from the U.S., then they have been trained from birth to buy or whine their way to the biggest/shiniest(?)/most expensive anything. This guarantees success, popularity, envy, local fame,etc..

You win my award for the most ignorant thing I've ever read in a Forum :thumbdown:

 

[usayit]

I think his statement might be a little exaggerated but you would be equally ignorant if you didn't accept the fact that IMAGE is VERY important in the United States.

"Keeping up with the Joneses" is very much alive in this country. A very small example are some member's signatures on this here forum (yours included).... An even bigger example from a purely marketing standpoint is the popularity of "branded" products which seem to bring attention to the branding over the product itself (Mercedes symbol, Nike, Canon, Nikon, etc..).

 

[Yahoozy]

also i think megapixels has a lot to do with it
people automatically assume more megapixels means better quality when really 6 megapixels is more that hobbyist or non-professional photographers will ever need, honestly
but marketers push the belief on buyers, so D300s are outselling D40s in the amateur market (who, btw are probably only using about $200 out of their $million setup)

 

[CanAm]

(though my first motorcycle was the first production motorcycle to come out in 1982 with a turbocharger from the factory... and I had never touched street bikes before... and I survived just fine, thanks).

I'd speculate that you rode dirtbikes at one point, then, judging by the way you worded that.


I came across a militant newbie (I say this because he was a photography buff, but took pretty awful pictures) yesterday at a photography seminar. The guy was a Sony rep pushing the Alpha series (which, for the record, take everything you don't need in a digital SLR, and cram them all in there, and at a hefty premium, too!) at the DigitalDays photography classes. He saw my Canon 10D and my Sigma lenses and started criticizing my gear because it wasn't pricey enough. I told him what I had works and he said "well then, it's a gamble that's working in your favor so far".

His unfounded claims of "Sigma is known for awful quality control" and "Sony's Karl Zeiss glass lenses are far superior to anything else you can buy and they're affordable! (On a millionaire's budget)" were enough to make me boycott Sony products for good.

If you happen to be reading this, Mr. Sony Rep, learn that it's bad business sense to force a product on someone that has no money for what you're selling, and has no need for what you're selling. You can sell someone the most expensive camera in the world and they still won't take decent photos if they have no idea what they're doing.

Sorry guys, had to vent.

 

[Alex_B]

The thread which would not die .... !

Anyway, just to add another strange story. I mentioned that I was already attacked by Nikonians for not shooting Nikon. But it also happens to me that people with Canon cameras approach me with aq broad smile, shouting from a distance that they have the same camera as I do.
But then they come closer and see that mine is alot more expensive expensive
- they blush, and start to apologize that they did not realise it earlier. Just as if they had just insulted me by underestimating my gear! Now isn't that ridiculous as well?

 

[JIP]

You will see my 55-200 VR on my D300 from time to time.

It takes really good pictures, and in certain situations I use it in place of my 70-200 f/2.8 VR.

Having said that, I agree with your intent... that good glass is more important than a camera body.

I did, after all, buy the 70-200 VR before I bought the 55-200 VR.

I haven't had my wife's 18-200 on my D300 though... I really don't care for that lens very much.

As far as the 18-55, it is the only other wide angle I own... but since I really don't shoot wide angle much, it has never made it onto the D300 either.

Usually I keep my 24-70 f/2.8 on it for basketball shots, along with the 70-200 VR.

Well to me that statement is more about buying them at the same time (D300 bought with the cheap 18-55 and 55-200) as exsclusive glass for the body.

 

[Mav]

so D300s are outselling D40s in the amateur market

Not hardly. D40 kits are flying off the pallets at Costco and other big retailers, not D300's.

 

[Yahoozy]

hahah dude i know 3 guys who have D300s and never venture out of Program mode
makes me cry =(

 

[sabbath999]

hahah dude i know 3 guys who have D300s and never venture out of Program mode
makes me cry =(

Well, you don't have to worry about me. My first thought when I read this was "Wait just a minute, the D300 doesn't even have a Program Mode on it, does it?"

I had to pull out my camera to see.

It does.

Shows you how much attention I pay to Program Mode I guess.

 

[Dubious Drewski]

Wow, this thread has it all! Motorcycles, housing, local economies, golf, something about oil. I think this is the one and only thread anyone visiting the internet tonight needs to read.

I know I feel like I've had enough!

 

[Yahoozy]

Well, you don't have to worry about me. My first thought when I read this was "Wait just a minute, the D300 doesn't even have a Program Mode on it, does it?"

I had to pull out my camera to see.

It does.

Shows you how much attention I pay to Program Mode I guess.

hahahah
you have renewed my faith in humanity Sabbath =D

 

[Battou]

Well, you don't have to worry about me. My first thought when I read this was "Wait just a minute, the D300 doesn't even have a Program Mode on it, does it?"

I had to pull out my camera to see.

It does.

Shows you how much attention I pay to Program Mode I guess.

Could be worse....I had to ask the other day what the hell "green Box mode" was....

 

[JerryPH]

Now now there are a few peole on ths board that think that is a perfectly acceptable combination, that or the 18-200.

I very clearly heard my D200 tell me that it lubs my 18-200. True story!